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  • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    I mean, who among us hasn't joked among friends about torturing a teenager before???
    As the parent of kids who are or have been teenagers - I'm going to have to take the 5th on this one.

    And - more as a general comment (like OJ's "If I had done it" book) rather than any kind of admission of guilt - I'd like to add that if I WERE to torture a teenager, it would be more psychological in nature and not actual physical pain-inducing type torture.

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    • Originally posted by Eddie View Post

      And - more as a general comment (like OJ's "If I had done it" book) rather than any kind of admission of guilt - I'd like to add that if I WERE to torture a teenager, it would be more psychological in nature and not actual physical pain-inducing type torture.
      You mean like randomly turning off the wi-fi without warning? something like that?
      PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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      • Originally posted by creekster View Post
        You mean like randomly turning off the wi-fi without warning? something like that?
        That's actually very effective at getting your teenage boys to talk to you.
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        • Originally posted by creekster View Post
          You mean like randomly turning off the wi-fi without warning? something like that?
          Nah. Turning off the wifi means I can't use it either. But I might consider changing the password from time to time. Or going online and limiting the amount of data their phone can use. Or maybe make it so that they can only call and text me or their mom between 11pm and 6:30am.

          I may or may not have said embarrassing things in the presence of their friends. And my wife may or may not have shown up to a son's Jr. High dressed as a pirate once. (Hey. She left the eye patch at home, so she was thinking about him somewhat...)

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          • Originally posted by Eddie View Post
            Nah. Turning off the wifi means I can't use it either. But I might consider changing the password from time to time. Or going online and limiting the amount of data their phone can use. Or maybe make it so that they can only call and text me or their mom between 11pm and 6:30am.

            I may or may not have said embarrassing things in the presence of their friends. And my wife may or may not have shown up to a son's Jr. High dressed as a pirate once. (Hey. She left the eye patch at home, so she was thinking about him somewhat...)
            Just set up two wifi networks on the same router - one you use and one the teenagers use. Shutting off the teenager version doesn't negatively impact your connectivity.
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            • Originally posted by creekster View Post
              You mean like randomly turning off the wi-fi without warning? something like that?
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              • Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                Nah. Turning off the wifi means I can't use it either.
                You should have separate wifi for yourself (and other adults in your home [optional]), your kids, and your guests. It's just good practice.
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                • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                  You should have separate wifi for yourself (and other adults in your home [optional]), your kids, and your guests. It's just good practice.
                  Do you mind expounding on that?
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                  • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    Do you mind expounding on that?
                    wifi for self(/wife): unmetered / unfiltered / always on
                    wifi for kids: metered / filtered / on and off according to set schedule
                    wifi for guests: unfiltered / always on / firewalled off from rest of home network
                    You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                    Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                    Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                    You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                    • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                      wifi for self(/wife): unmetered / unfiltered / always on
                      wifi for kids: metered / filtered / on and off according to set schedule
                      wifi for guests: unfiltered / always on / firewalled off from rest of home network
                      Do you use the same router or one for each network? I'm not completely inept, but I haven't ever tried to set up separate networks. What do you use for filtering?
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                      • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
                        Just set up two wifi networks on the same router - one you use and one the teenagers use. Shutting off the teenager version doesn't negatively impact your connectivity.
                        Or get Circle. It's what I use and makes it easy to pause just one kids wifi without interrupting anyone else.


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                          • Brutal. Just brutal.

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                            • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              Do you use the same router or one for each network? I'm not completely inept, but I haven't ever tried to set up separate networks.
                              Partially documented here.

                              Two routers: one for parents/guests (ASUS), one for the kids (old DLink pos).


                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              What do you use for filtering?
                              Filtering done via openDNS.com on the kids router. Port 53 traffic blocked on kids router to all but openDNS servers. App store disabled on kids devices to prevent them from downloading VPN software. Disable the incognito Safari mode on kids phones. Restrict Safari from using phone network, e.g. wifi only (which for my kids is predominantly at home, church, and school... places where significant filtering rules are in place).
                              Last edited by Walter Sobchak; 08-07-2017, 08:52 AM.
                              You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                              Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                              Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                              You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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                              • Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                                Partially documented here.

                                Two routers: one for parents/guests (ASUS), one for the kids (old DLink pos).




                                Filtering done via openDNS.com on the kids router. Port 53 traffic blocked on kids router to all but openDNS servers. App store disabled on kids devices to prevent them from downloading VPN software. Disable the incognito Safari mode on kids phones. Restrict Safari from using phone network, e.g. wifi only (which for my kids is predominantly at home, church, and school... places where significant filtering rules are in place).
                                We use openDNS and block router traffic on port 53 as well. The only flaw with this method is Google image search. You would have to authenticate with Google on every browser they use (or could download) and turn SafeSearch on and ensure the cookie is set then ensure they never delete the cookie.

                                I've also never gotten to the point where I worry about my kids downloading VPN software. Once they turn 16 they get a full data plan which means they can do pretty much anything they want off my network. At that point they have to rely on their own ability to withstand the evils of the world - teach them correct principles and all that...

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