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[USUC]

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Lol. How are these people individually polling vs their possible democratic opponents? This is just humiliating.

Lee is rightfully getting heat for his behavior, but it's funny there hasn't been the same passion for unseating Owens, who voted to support the objections to PA's election. Not even Lee voted this way. Stewart did as well but Owens' seat is still competitive.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Trump has the cleanest rear end in america right now.

[Pelado]

Trump has the cleanest rear end in america right now.

Sad but true. Probably doesn't even need to wear the adult diapers.

[fusnik]

Lol. How are these people individually polling vs their possible democratic opponents? This is just humiliating.

Lee is rightfully getting heat for his behavior, but it's funny there hasn't been the same passion for unseating Owens, who voted to support the objections to PA's election. Not even Lee voted this way. Stewart did as well but Owens' seat is still competitive.

You are a super savvy pol, have you not been seeing polling data since Jan 6th? You seemed surprised by this have you not seen the videos from the debates in AZ, GA, WI, OH? This is not out of the norm for the current GOP base. Roger Stone was just in Utah during the convention rallying support for Mike Lee.

I don’t think the cross section of people of where you sit are being honest with you about their feelings surrounding the 2020 election and J6.

[Commando]

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OMG I would love to be part of that panel and then just rip off a long, winding screed about what a historic piece of shit narcissist wanna-be-dictator Trump is.

[Jeff Lebowski]

OMG I would love to be part of that panel and then just rip off a long, winding screed about what a historic piece of shit narcissist wanna-be-dictator Trump is.

I have the same fantasy.

[Pelado]

OMG I would love to be part of that panel and then just rip off a long, winding screed about what a historic piece of shit narcissist wanna-be-dictator Trump is.

I have the same fantasy.

Your fantasies are boring.

[USUC]

I don’t think the cross section of people of where you sit are being honest with you about their feelings surrounding the 2020 election and J6.

This is especially cynical and leads me to believe you aren't capable of seeing any nuance in people or believe that your political foes are all the same blob.

Real life isn't social media and real people aren't necessarily attention whores represented in the media. I realize swaths of people are crazy, but people I am close to who I've known for years and follow on social media are able to get together and adjust their outward expressions (even between each other) to deceive me?

[fusnik]

This is especially cynical and leads me to believe you aren't capable of seeing any nuance in people or believe that your political foes are all the same blob.

Real life isn't social media and real people aren't necessarily attention whores represented in the media. I realize swaths of people are crazy, but people I am close to who I've known for years and follow on social media are able to get together and adjust their outward expressions (even between each other) to deceive me?

Mike Lee was a facilitator of the attempted coup, ask your peeps if they are going to vote for him. If they are that’s all you need to know about their views on Trump and J6.

A large majority of my friends and family are republicans and it’s been one of the major disappointments of my adult life to see how many have been sucked in by the deception of the GOP over the last 5 years.

Again look at polling in the state and what’s going on around the country, I’m not being cynical, you are being naive.

[Commando]

Your fantasies are boring.

Then why does that particular fantasy arouse me so?

[falafel]

Mike Lee was a facilitator of the attempted coup, ask your peeps if they are going to vote for him. If they are that’s all you need to know about their views on Trump and J6.

A large majority of my friends and family are republicans and it’s been one of the major disappointments of my adult life to see how many have been sucked in by the deception of the GOP over the last 5 years.

Again look at polling in the state and what’s going on around the country, I’m not being cynical, you are being naive.

Its interesting how you are able to take one sliver of a person and then write them off completely because of it.

[fusnik]

Its interesting how you are able to take one sliver of a person and then write them off completely because of it.

Honestly WTF are you talking about?

[falafel]

Honestly WTF are you talking about?

Honestly you don't know?

[Non Sequitur]

Its interesting how you are able to take one sliver of a person and then write them off completely because of it.

How does being disappointed in someone equate to writing off a person completely? I have a lot of people in my orbit that I love but disappoint me nonetheless. My father watched Hannity every night until he died. I loved him, but there was a lot about him that disappointed me and a lot about him that I didn't respect. I don't think Fus is the one guilty of being overly binary in the exchange.

[USUC]

How does being disappointed in someone equate to writing off a person completely? I have a lot of people in my orbit that I love but disappoint me nonetheless. My father watched Hannity every night until he died. I loved him, but there was a lot about him that disappointed me and a lot about him that I didn't respect. I don't think Fus is the one guilty of being overly binary in the exchange.

Fus is the one who apparently believes the only explanation for my family and friends not neatly fitting into his narrow "voted for Trump = believe the election was stolen" worldview, is that they are collectively lying to me.