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  • LVAllen
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 3222

    #241
    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    It looks like the guys who killed the nurse are still working. I imaging they've been dispatched to different locations to make investigating the situation harder.
    Bovino said they'd be reassigned to administrative duty. Then he walked it back and said they wouldn't be on the streets in Minnesota, they'd be elsewhere. It's the catholic priest method of investigation and accountability.

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #242
      Looks like TACO is coming.

      Trump . . . said said he didn’t know if he supported the ICE officer who shot.
      Classic Trump. Someone needs to be sacrificed. If I was that guy, I'd be lawyering up very quickly. I wonder how much longer Noem is around.

      He's got to get out of this somehow. He's bleeding profusely and the dems will block the next funding round later this week without taking some more blood.


      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #243
        This really isn't that difficult.

        Fifteen months later in Minneapolis, there isn’t much heart in Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Saturday shooting of Alex Pretti, as he lay on the ground surrounded by ICE agents, is the worst incident to date in what is becoming a moral and political debacle for the Trump Presidency.

        Videos of an event aren’t always definitive, but this is how it looks to us. Pretti attempted, foolishly, to assist a woman who had been pepper-sprayed by agents. Multiple agents then tackled Pretti, and he had a phone in one hand as he lay on the ground. An agent discovered a concealed gun on Pretti, and disarmed him. An agent then shot Pretti, and multiple shots followed.

        The Trump Administration spin on this simply isn’t believable.

        . . . . . .

        This is backfiring against Republicans. The violence in Minneapolis has erased the state’s welfare fraud from the headlines, which no doubt pleases Mr. Walz. It’s also given Democrats in Washington an excuse to shut down the government a second time over the Homeland Security funding bill.

        Mr. Miller’s mass deportation methods are turning immigration, an issue Mr. Trump owned in 2024, into a political liability for Republicans in 2026. Americans don’t want law enforcement shooting people in the street or arresting five-year-old boys. The President who said you have to have a heart in enforcement ought to show some.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • dabrockster
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10868

          #244
          Investigative journalist Asra Q. Nomani is senior editor of investigations at Fox News Digital. She is a former reporter at the Wall Street Journal, where she covered stories related to money, politics and society. She is the author of "Woke Army: The Left-Green Alliance That Is Undermining America’s Freedom."A former professor in the practice of journalism at Georgetown University, she investigated the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

          Sheds light on the coordinated efforts of the agitators who cloak themselves as protestors.


          The skirmish that led to Saturday's fatal shooting of an agitator by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were driven by a complex network of far-left organizations with a wide range of causes, a Fox News Digital investigation found.

          A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE "Abductors" in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired. ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations.

          Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti's death is genuine, the network's real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.


          The encrypted Signal messages obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show that anti-ICE "rapid responders" were actively tracking, broadcasting and summoning "backup" around federal agents outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue, where the shooting occurred. Local "rapid responders" made at least 26 entries into a database called "MN ICE Plates" in the critical hours before and after the killing, documenting the license plate numbers and details of alleged ICE vehicles they claimed to see around Nicollet Avenue.

          The entry at row 344 read, "At the nicollet [sic] murder," chronicling a black Jeep Wagoneer at the location with agents allegedly "involved in shooting." Row 338 had a "Glam Doll Donuts" entry, tracking a black Ford Taurus.


          Using a red phone emoji to signal an all-points alert, a message blasted out: "☎️ easy. URGENT: observers urgently requested at glam doll donuts @ 26th & nicollet [sic]," the alert continued. "an observer has been shot by ice, unknown condition, emts [emergency medical technicians] present, please be safe. EDIT: medics requested to join perimeter in case agents start gassing. be aware there are many agents and mpd [Minneapolis Police Department] officers present."

          Within minutes, far-left activists descended on Nicollet Avenue. Soon after, a video showed corrugated boxes of supplies apparently lined up on a Minneapolis sidewalk for protesters, including boxes marked "DESINER MASKS" [sic] and "FREE WINTER HATS," next to piles of bottled water.


          Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their "rapid responders" in Minneapolis and mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles.

          Media outlets, including CNN and MSNOW, described "angry protesters" but failed to identify the ideological networks behind the mobilization, even as protesters flashed their signs with their logos and names, touting socialism, communism and Marxism, on camera.
          Encrypted chats show activists tracked ICE agents using a sophisticated database before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. They then used it to mobilize agitators.


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          • LVAllen
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 3222

            #245
            Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
            Investigative journalist Asra Q. Nomani is senior editor of investigations at Fox News Digital. She is a former reporter at the Wall Street Journal, where she covered stories related to money, politics and society. She is the author of "Woke Army: The Left-Green Alliance That Is Undermining America’s Freedom."A former professor in the practice of journalism at Georgetown University, she investigated the kidnapping and murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

            Sheds light on the coordinated efforts of the agitators who cloak themselves as protestors.




            Encrypted chats show activists tracked ICE agents using a sophisticated database before the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. They then used it to mobilize agitators.

            Agitators?

            Dude. This is a dumb-as-dogshit take.

            And the "illegal immigrant criminal" BS has been refuted by MN DOC. He had no criminal record in Minnesota.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12260

              #246
              ICE is undermining America's freedom. Stop falling for their shit.

              I would not be surprised to see ICE stationed outside of polling places.

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              • dabrockster
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10868

                #247
                Yes agitators. What the fuck else would you call this shit. You think their actions are lawful. I do not. The have moved past being a group of protestors.

                You can refute and say it is bull shit, but this isn’t about the narrative you wish to project. It is about this being a fully coordinated group lead by socialist, communist, marxists. Their purposes are to exploit and use these events that they perpetrate these events and use it for their goals. Create more chaos.

                I don’t expect you to change your opinion and I expected your bullshit retort to down play this.

                You two refuse to see both sides while I have condones the killings but also recognize the attack within our county from evil POS hell bent to destroy what America is. You your racism, Nazi and all the same rhetoric. You are them.


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                • Maximus
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6003

                  #248
                  Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                  You can refute and say it is bull shit, but this isn’t about the narrative you wish to project. It is about this being a fully coordinated group lead by socialist, communist, marxists. Their purposes are to exploit and use these events that they perpetrate these events and use it for their goals. Create more chaos.

                  I don’t expect you to change your opinion and I expected your bullshit retort to down play this.

                  You two refuse to see both sides while I have condones the killings but also recognize the attack within our county from evil POS hell bent to destroy what America is. You your racism, Nazi and all the same rhetoric. You are them.



                  You're using labels to make them appear less human

                  Ice purposefully murdered someone and literally clapped about I t on camera. At least you "condoned" it shile blaming the vicgim yet again

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                  • Maximus
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 6003

                    #249
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                    That depends. How did you interpret it?
                    Since you aren't denying blaming are victim.and comparing him to jan 6 protestors and you wont deny it again that is the only conclusion we can make


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                    • dabrockster
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10868

                      #250
                      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                      ICE is undermining America's freedom. Stop falling for their shit.

                      I would not be surprised to see ICE stationed outside of polling places.
                      Do you think illegal immigrants have the right to vote?

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 6003

                        #251
                        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                        Do you think illegal immigrants have the right to vote?
                        They are openly knowingly sending legal immigrants to detention. They Rreest people they can't arrest on purpose. Do you support this ?

                        Any agitation. Any confrontation or action against ice is on the moral side of things

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69453

                          #252
                          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                          J6 was an attempt to overthrow the government Jeff. It was a coup attempt.

                          Rosa Parks is not like J6. MLK is not like J6.
                          She did not smear feces in the halls of government or chase legislators who were fearing for their lives.
                          She did not bring zip ties to hold captive members of congress.

                          This is one of your worst gotchyas yet.
                          If I were only talking about Rosa Parks in the back of the bus, you would have a pretty good point.

                          I was just making an observation about a general principle. I know you struggle with nuance so I expected you to blow a gasket over this one. Sorry.
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                          • myboynoah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 21719

                            #253
                            Homan headed to Minnesota under direct Trump supervision ("Tom . . . will report directly to me"). Looks like Trump getting ready to scapegoat Noem. Does Bovino survive?

                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • Maximus
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 6003

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              If I were only talking about Rosa Parks in the back of the bus, you would have a pretty good point.

                              I was just making an observation about a general principle. I know you struggle with nuance so I expected you to blow a gasket over this one. Sorry.
                              lmao its your fault I made a terrible comparison!

                              every single of your responses is attacking the posters of.....your board???

                              maybe learn from jefe.

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                              • frank ryan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12260

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                                If I were only talking about Rosa Parks in the back of the bus, you would have a pretty good point.

                                I was just making an observation about a general principle. I know you struggle with nuance so I expected you to blow a gasket over this one. Sorry.
                                Jeff, I can do without the personal dig man. You knew that was going to draw a reaction and it did from not only me.

                                My problem with the comparison is I don't think J6 was an act of civil disobedience it was an insurrection.

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