ICE ICE baby - the immigration thread

[frank ryan]

You guys notice how MAGA, in a break with PR practice of decades doesn't without comments until they gather all the facts, instead they make absolute claim of guilt with minutes of an incident?

Best information consumer practice would be to disbelieve Patel, puppy-killer Noem, Homan, Pondi is to be skeptical of anything they say and treat it as untrue until proven otherwise.

[LVAllen]

We will disagree. These are not lawful. Film, yell, scream, but as soon as you follow obstruct, block and other tactics. You have moved into unlawful actions. Period.

Following is not impeding, and is 100% legal. Period.

[frank ryan]

How about we scrutinize the legality of what ICE is doing?

[dabrockster]

Training Manual for Anti-ICE agitators. This is not protesting.

Here is the entire TRAINING MANUAL for domestic terrorist patrols chasing ICE agents in Minneapolis.

Keep in mind, this is the watered down opsec version.

https://x.com/camhigby/status/201547...wgQeKTws5vNdEg

[originalsocal]

Peaceable protests are lawful. These protests aren't always peaceful.

Right! How many of these protests have you been to? I've been to many of them and the emphasis is always on keeping it non-violent. The only time I've been to a protest and had any sort of violence occur was in SLC...by untrained security.

[LVAllen]

James O’Keefe is also out there and had this tor say. Pretty sure he is fairly credible..

Found the source of your problem.

[Northwestcoug]

Found the source of your problem.

LOL.

I don't see the post here anymore, but when I read about violent Communist protesters on the left 'fairly credible' is not what came to my mind.

[originalsocal]

Training Manual for Anti-ICE agitators. This is not protesting.




https://x.com/camhigby/status/201547...wgQeKTws5vNdEg

Yes it is. Civil disobedience is a very effective tool, as long as it is non-violent I don't have a problem with it. Also, I'm not sure how I would react to someone in my community being shot, execution style by jack-booted thugs, but it would NOT be reverent.

[frank ryan]

O'Keefe is not remotely credible. MLK was all about civil disobedience.

[originalsocal]

https://x.com/SpencerAlthouse/status...196276226?s=20

[Shaka]

he did not engage with anyone at any time. while his back was turned he was pepper sprayed, pistol whiped in the heasd 3 times, tackled by 6 thugs who then took off his weapon, then saw his weapon was off, took out their gun, pointed at his back and opened fiire

then another agent starting clappiing when they emptied 10 rounds

He had no business involving himself in any way. She was pepper-sprayed and possibly being apprehended. That's it. Her life was not in danger. If he was only filming, then he should have continued to do so rather than entering the situation.

I find it amazing that some of you can't find even a small amount of fault in his actions. As a CCW holder and a receiver of the training that all CCW holders get, he was dumb.

In the immortal words of the dirty yewt Viliseni Fauonuku, "Don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin".

[Jeff Lebowski]

Alrighty then. So acts of civil disobedience intended to impede government actions that you disagree with are a sacred right of democracy?

I can think of a bunch of folks that will THRILLED to have your support and understanding.

[Shaka]

Right! How many of these protests have you been to? I've been to many of them and the emphasis is always on keeping it non-violent. The only time I've been to a protest and had any sort of violence occur was in SLC...by untrained security.

Maybe you don't go to enough protests. If we're limiting this to SLC then I remember a fairly recent protest where over forty were arrested, a police cruiser overturned and set on fire, the Salt Lake District Attorney's office's windows were broken with attorneys trapped inside as the protesters tried to gain entrance, hundreds of thousands in property damage, and police officers sent to quell the protest being injured.

[Moliere]

Again what the is border patrol doing in Minnesota but basically terrorizing its citizens. Shouldn't they be at our borders which are being invaded by hordes of unwashed masses from shithole countries?

Minnesota is a border state

[dabrockster]

O'Keefe is not remotely credible. MLK was all about civil disobedience.

You are joking.. This is Not civil disobedience. To compare what they are doing to what MLK shows your complete and total irrationality. MLK was very purposeful in his protest. He sat in “White only” areas, held mass marches, purposely preached nonresistance arrests to fill jails, and demonstrate for the world the brutality of how they were treated. He supported strikes and other various economic methods by boycotting areas.

What these people are doing is a disgrace to what he did and is no way at all comparable to him.