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  • Shaka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 10449

    #181
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post

    Oh brother

    Now a new angle to victim blame

    It wasnt even relevant to his death
    The victim is an educated idiot. Did he deserve to die? The jury is out. However, one of the first things they teach you in the CCW class is to be very careful how you engage with law enforcement when you're packing. If you get pulled over, you are to hand the officer your permit along with your license and state whether or not you're in possession.

    This guy decided to engage officers while carrying, which is an incredibly dumb thing to do. As a CCW permit holder, he should know better.

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    • PaloAltoCougar
      Semper infra dignitatem
      • Nov 2008
      • 16926

      #182
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Legal or not, bringing a handgun to a protest like this is a really dumb idea.
      I agree, but Kyle Rittenhouse doesn't. It had provided him with fame and fortune. The key is to direct your fire at protestors, not law enforcement.

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      • PaloAltoCougar
        Semper infra dignitatem
        • Nov 2008
        • 16926

        #183
        Originally posted by Shaka View Post

        The victim is an educated idiot. Did he deserve to die? The jury is out. However, one of the first things they teach you in the CCW class is to be very careful how you engage with law enforcement when you're packing. If you get pulled over, you are to hand the officer your permit along with your license and state whether or not you're in possession.

        This guy decided to engage officers while carrying, which is an incredibly dumb thing to do. As a CCW permit holder, he should know better.
        From the videos, it's unclear he engaged with LEOs, he was assisting a pepper-gassed woman and I think he was accosted by the cops--i.e., they initiated the engagement (I'm open to correction here). I'm guessing even if that's true, it wouldn't make any difference from your perspective. I'm certain the LEOs and the Trump administration are grateful the cops discovered, after working him over, that he was carrying a gun, even though the gun had nothing to do with their engagement.

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        • Northwestcoug
          Cocked and Loaded
          • May 2011
          • 17975

          #184
          Originally posted by Shaka View Post

          The victim is an educated idiot. Did he deserve to die? The jury is out. However, one of the first things they teach you in the CCW class is to be very careful how you engage with law enforcement when you're packing. If you get pulled over, you are to hand the officer your permit along with your license and state whether or not you're in possession.

          This guy decided to engage officers while carrying, which is an incredibly dumb thing to do. As a CCW permit holder, he should know better.
          How is this even a question at this point? What exactly did he do to deserve death?

          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
          - SeattleUte

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12314

            #185
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Legal or not, bringing a handgun to a protest like this is a really dumb idea.
            Not quite as bad as Kyle Rittenhouse.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12314

              #186
              Again what the is border patrol doing in Minnesota but basically terrorizing its citizens. Shouldn't they be at our borders which are being invaded by hordes of unwashed masses from shithole countries?

              What's dumb is that all of this was prompted by that kid from Farmington's wildly inaccurate video on Somali fraud that people like Musk and JD Vance hyped up.

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12314

                #187
                The victim seems like he was a pretty good man who tried to make a difference in his life.

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69601

                  #188
                  Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Not quite as bad as Kyle Rittenhouse.
                  Both cases ended in a senseless death.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • frank ryan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12314

                    #189
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                    Both cases ended in a senseless death.
                    In one case the guy with the gun shot someone and was hailed as a hero, in the other, the guy was killed and is being called a domestic terrorist. We have no idea if his gun was even a factor.

                    The rational response would be to call for ICE to stop doing this shit.

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69601

                      #190
                      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                      In one case the guy with the gun shot someone and was hailed as a hero, in the other, the guy was killed and is being called a domestic terrorist. We have no idea if his gun was even a factor.

                      The rational response would be to call for ICE to stop doing this shit.
                      Oh come on. Not everyone considers Rittenhouse a hero and not everyone considers this guy a domestic terrorist. Not by a mile.

                      Weird that you would push back on such a simple observation.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • dabrockster
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 10924

                        #191
                        Video of lefties in Minneapolis following these people around for an hour because their license plate is in their "Ice Database." The people get out of their car and tell them they are not ICE. They don't believe them. Then, the lefties demand to see their IDs. Yes...the people that are worried about Nazis running about asking for your papers are demanding to see your papers. Can't make this shit up. But tell me how these are lawful protestors.

                        https://x.com/haileyywest/status/201...v1zwgQeKTws5vN dEg

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                        • dabrockster
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10924

                          #192
                          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                          Again what the is border patrol doing in Minnesota but basically terrorizing its citizens. Shouldn't they be at our borders which are being invaded by hordes of unwashed masses from shithole countries?

                          What's dumb is that all of this was prompted by that kid from Farmington's wildly inaccurate video on Somali fraud that people like Musk and JD Vance hyped up.
                          People have already answered this question and it is in the news. They were sent to help assist ICE. The border crossing are substantially down which allowed for them to be called up.

                          You can get object to then went there but there you go.

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                          • dabrockster
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10924

                            #193
                            Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                            In one case the guy with the gun shot someone and was hailed as a hero, in the other, the guy was killed and is being called a domestic terrorist. We have no idea if his gun was even a factor.

                            The rational response would be to call for ICE to stop doing this shit.
                            Good Lord. Project much.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69601

                              #194
                              This is interesting. Guy who pulled the gun from the victim may have accidentally discharged it, thus spooking the other guys who then opened fire on the victim. Check out this slo-mo video.

                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • dabrockster
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10924

                                #195
                                JL: Was about to post that as well. Not sure how reliable but makes sense how everyone scatters and fins came out and shots went off.


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