A Funny Thing Happened on the Way To Jerusalem: Gaza/Israel conflict

[Moliere]

So an impossible line and israel can do whatever until this impossibility is realized

Hezbollah has been launching rockets into Israel since October. Maybe if they stopped then Israel would stop counterattacking.

[Omaha 680]

Israel is the only nation in the world who would be chided for "escalating" against people who are lobbing rockets into civilian areas nonstop. If hezbollah were abiding by previous agreements and weren't camped on the border none of this would be happening. If they moved north of the Litani as specified in the 2006 UN resolution (or if the UN actually gave AF about their own resolutions when they actually provide israel some security) this would all stop.

Maximus saying people who support Israel's efforts against hezbollah believe israel "can do whatever they want" is quite revealing. Just admit you you an extreme double standard against the jews (i won't speculate why) and we can have a more honest conversation.

[Maximus]

Israel is the only nation in the world who would be chided for "escalating" against people who are lobbing rockets into civilian areas nonstop. If hezbollah were abiding by previous agreements and weren't camped on the border none of this would be happening. If they moved north of the Litani as specified in the 2006 UN resolution (or if the UN actually gave AF about their own resolutions when they actually provide israel some security) this would all stop.

Maximus saying people who support Israel's efforts against hezbollah believe israel "can do whatever they want" is quite revealing. Just admit you you an extreme double standard against the jews (i won't speculate why) and we can have a more honest conversation.

Lol

"What is the line ?"

"You just criticize israel because of jews."

Uh ok. No where was there a defense of hezbollah. Bibi wants this wat on both sides to continue while his own experts don't.

[Omaha 680]

Lol

"What is the line ?"

"You just criticize israel because of jews."

Uh ok. No where was there a defense of hezbollah. Bibi wants this wat on both sides to continue while his own experts don't.

Sorry man. You play unbiased observer but you tip your hand too much.

Edit: here's a couple tests. What should Israel's response be to unrelenting rocket fire from hezbollah over since Oct 7? And do you think the expoding pager operation was an "escalation" or not targeted enough?

[Maximus]

Sorry man. You play unbiased observer but you tip your hand too much.

Edit: here's a couple tests. What should Israel's response be to unrelenting rocket fire from hezbollah over since Oct 7? And do you think the expoding pager operation was an "escalation" or not targeted enough?

I think the Gaza war should've ended months ago which would've ended the stuff in the north

Bibi is a significant barrier to that side of things ending as spoken by his own defense minister and army chief. I blame him and hamas for it not being done but he has purposefully tried to stop it from happening multiple times since March.

if that ended the north would've ended soon

if we ignore that side of things I think hezbollah deserved an attack much sooner and no it isn't acceptable for this to be going on for 10 months now. I do think it was unacceptable to publicly disown a 21 day ceasefire after drafting it with the US as bibi did.

Nasrallah deserved it so meh but I don't think this helps stop Gaza or a further war and I think bibi is motivated by political goals on furthering this all rather than smart moves

there's a reason tens to hundreds of thousands are protesting weekly in Israel. They want it done.

[Omaha 680]

I think the Gaza war should've ended months ago which would've ended the stuff in the north

Bibi is a significant barrier to that side of things ending as spoken by his own defense minister and army chief. I blame him and hamas for it not being done but he has purposefully tried to stop it from happening multiple times since March.

if that ended the north would've ended soon

if we ignore that side of things I think hezbollah deserved an attack much sooner and no it isn't acceptable for this to be going on for 10 months now. I do think it was unacceptable to publicly disown a 21 day ceasefire after drafting it with the US as bibi did.

Nasrallah deserved it so meh but I don't think this helps stop Gaza or a further war and I think bibi is motivated by political goals on furthering this all rather than smart moves

there's a reason tens to hundreds of thousands are protesting weekly in Israel. They want it done.

I also think the Gaza war should have ended months ago. But my impression is whether it's gaza or Lebanon you want it to end by Israeli concessions. Set bibi aside for a minute and look at the situation in the north. Hezbollah is in direct violation of the UN resolution and agreement from the last hezbollah war by even being on the border. And then being on the border in violation of the agreements they also commit continuous overt acts of war by launching rockets since Oct 7. Israel is the only country in tbe world that is asked to make concessions in such a situation. Their enemies violate previous agreements and cease fires and the violations are the new baseline from which Israel is expected to negotiate. I'm sorry but that is a double standard that the west only puts on the jews.

Bibi is a lightning rod but if he was gone the west would treat Israel the same. Israel's enemies know this and are counting on us to push Israel to concessions. The only thing their enemies understand or respect is brute force.

[BigFatMeanie]

Israel with another strike today (this morning US time), taking out Hassan Khalil Yassin, Hezbollah's intelligence commander: https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822231

[BigFatMeanie]

Also, at the folks on this board sympathizing with those poor, misunderstood, Hezbollah members. "Well maybe they weren't fighters but just part of the Hezbollah organization"

I'm old enough to remember the Beirut bombings of the US/French barracks, the Achille Lauro Hijacking, the Pan Am bombing, etc - and that is just from the 80s when I was in high school. You Militant Islam sympathizers should be old enough to remember since September 11.

Doesn't matter if you sympathize with Hezbollah or Hamas or Muslim Brotherhood or Al Qaeda or ISIS. If you are lucky you can pay your jizra and exist under dhimmitude. If you're unlucky they will spit on your sympathy and gleefully yell Allahu Akbar as they behead your infidel ass.

Israeli's aren't choir boys but they don't want to behead me because I believe in Jesus. If I have to choose between Team Israel and Team Militant Islam then I'm on Team Israel all the way.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hezbollah's stated mission is to destroy the state of Israel. End of discussion.

[Moliere]

Hezbollah's stated mission is to destroy the state of Israel. End of discussion.

Same with Hamas. Israel would be smart to never sign a ceasefire with either of them. A ceasefire with either is a one sided agreement. Neither of them will respect a ceasefire and Israel will be expected to keep it.

[myboynoah]

Same with Hamas. Israel would be smart to never sign a ceasefire with either of them. A ceasefire with either is a one sided agreement. Neither of them will respect a ceasefire and Israel will be expected to keep it.

The concern is to keep this from becoming a greater regional event (primarily bringing Iran into direct conflict with Israel and larger conflict in the West Bank). Also I wonder if Israel might be overextending itself, putting it in real jeopardy;, but they know better than we do. The Hamas threat in Gaza seems very much reduced, so if Israel could reach a cease fire that gives is complete control over the border with Egypt, that would be win and it should take it. As for Hezbollah, I say give them the Hamas treatment. People in Northern Israel are still misplaced.

[Jeff Lebowski]

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[Jeff Lebowski]

Videos of celebrations in Syria are wild. They are going nuts.

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[YOhio]

The last paragraph of this, if correct, is incredibly damning of US military leadership.

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[frank ryan]

The last paragraph of this, if correct, is incredibly damning of US military leadership.

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I read the tweet. I'd like to learn more about that from another source. I'm skeptically of anything Kushner says