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Ha, it did. I ant to buy a share just so can attend the annual meeting and vote."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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That's amazing.Originally posted by Maximus View Post"I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Trump and MAGA have aggressively courted Libertarians. Trump spoke at their national convention. Pretty disappointing to see they got traction.Originally posted by USUC View Post
Of particular interest to me this election are the numbers libertarian candidates get this cycle compared to others. It's a bit of a convoluted mess so it may not yield much information. The Mises group who control the LP are all voting for Trump. The official LP candidate is not from the Mises group so I anticipate he will be the worst performing LP candidate in decades. But the down ballot LP numbers will be telling in just how pointless the party is.
They have also cozied up the Greens, as love portraying Jill Stein as a serious candidate
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HmmmmmOriginally posted by Moliere View PostThe market is sure happy today. I'm not sure if that's just the uncertainty coming to an end, finally, or if there's other factors at play. I do know that the stock DJT (Trumps media company) has had a very roller coaster ride in valuation and that roller coaster tends to follow his chances of winning...and DJT is up pretty big today. I'm hoping that's not a sign that most people are thinking he's going to win...God help us all if that's the case. MAGA will be here forever
DJT.jpgGive 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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The ascendancy of the single issue, "anti war," to the Libertarian Party has completely undercut 95% of the party platform. It makes sense the green party would now be bedfellows.Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
Trump and MAGA have aggressively courted Libertarians. Trump spoke at their national convention. Pretty disappointing to see they got traction.
They have also cozied up the Greens, as love portraying Jill Stein as a serious candidate
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I would say that the Dems have aggressively driven the libertarians to join forces with the GOP'ers.Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
Trump and MAGA have aggressively courted Libertarians. Trump spoke at their national convention. Pretty disappointing to see they got traction.
They have also cozied up the Greens, as love portraying Jill Stein as a serious candidate"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I wouldn't be too concerned about this... someone tried to get my opinion at the exit and I told them to take a hike.
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Maximus View Post"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Yeah, no they haven't. The Libertarian Party shifted into being way more focused on fiscal issues and isolationist policies. They've abandoned Civil Rights issues and other civil libertarian concerns.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
I would say that the Dems have aggressively driven the libertarians to join forces with the GOP'ers.
The democrats haven't shifted but the LP was responsive to Republican influence and interference. What kind of party has the candidate from another party speak at their convention?
Trump is the most anti-Libertarian candidate out there. He has no qualms about trampling with others' if it suits him.
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Let me post this again on what the libertarians said about Trump...Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
Yeah, no they haven't. The Libertarian Party shifted into being way more focused on fiscal issues and isolationist policies. They've abandoned Civil Rights issues and other civil libertarian concerns.
The democrats haven't shifted but the LP was responsive to Republican influence and interference. What kind of party has the candidate from another party speak at their convention?
Trump is the most anti-Libertarian candidate out there. He has no qualms about trampling with others' if it suits him.
Donald Trump is not a libertarian. Nonetheless, Trump is the best candidate for libertarians. He has:
1. Promised to free Ross Ulbricht.
2. Started no new wars, a first in over three decades.
3. Pledged to end the importation of anti-liberty migrants.
4. Indicated he will appoint Elon Musk, Ron Paul, and Vivek Ramaswamy to shrink the federal government.
5. Received endorsements from the greatest libertarians in America, including Thomas Massie.
6. Committed to ending the Department of Education.
7. Endorsed Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
8. Flirted with ending the income tax entirely."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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