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  • I hate Kamala Harris as a politician and candidate. I despise the gaslighting she and the whole democratic machine has been engaging in. I think they are unnecessarily divisive and their policies are anti growth. But when compared to her political foe... what even is the point of Trump and the NatCon movement? They are both offering government handouts to their constituents at the expense of the taxpayers. They both have stupid economic priorities. But Trump is a vile narcissist and his hangers on view vileness as a feature. The voting public is going to choose the same negative economic outcomes but also the additional vileness?

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    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

      I think trump could have done a much better job but given that the Harris administration had 4 years to implement all the stupid ideas she has been throwing out (and didn’t) trump still won the debate. Trump pointed this out in his closing statement. it seems the polls are saying the same thing, trump won:



      The independent fact checking reports are saying Harris also lied more than Trump as well but you wouldn’t get that from the very one sided fact checking the ABC moderators offered. It’s no wonder Direct TV hasn’t renewed their contract with ABC.
      That's right Ted! It wasn't even close!

      There's at least one person who actually believes those trash polls you posted:

      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • Betting markets look like they’ve flippped since yesterday and Harris is now the slight favorite.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • Donald Trump ranting and raving about immigrants eating people's dogs and cats was one of the most bizarre things that I have ever seen in politics.
          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
          --Kendrick Lamar

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          • Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post
            Donald Trump ranting and raving about immigrants eating people's dogs and cats was one of the most bizarre things that I have ever seen in politics.
            Yes! It was unreal.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • Just admit your guy got his ass kicked and move on. We were all able to see it when it happened to Biden. We all have eyes and ears. Nobody that isn't just a complete shill for the party thinks he won that debate or that it was some kind of a tie. He was very visibly manipulated into near apoplexy on live television in front of the entire nation.

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              • There's one thing the entire nation can agree upon. Trump and his team are unrivaled in the meme business:

                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  Yes! It was unreal.
                  Did everyone notice how he never looked at her once (except I guess when she went and shook his had and the start)? He just wouldn't look at her. What is that? Fear? Nervous that she would make him look stupid? Refusal to acknowledge her presence because she's a woman? Because she is black? Some weird psycho belief that if he doesn't look at her, she won't really exist? Is there some other reason?

                  I found it really odd, almost unnerving.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • lol

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                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • Lol @ the notion that anyone can effectively coach trump on how to debate.

                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                      • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                        There's one thing the entire nation can agree upon. Trump and his team are unrivaled in the meme business:
                        I was cursing at the stupid ABC moderator for correcting his lies. That is not your job. Trump lies every time he opens his mouth. Just let him go - don't give his MAGA base something to whine about when he fails.
                        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          Lol @ the notion that anyone can effectively coach trump on how to debate.

                          She failed. Bad job

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            I was cursing at the stupid ABC moderator for correcting his lies. That is not your job. Trump lies every time he opens his mouth. Just let him go - don't give his MAGA base something to whine about when he fails.
                            Debates really are ridiculous. The format is outdated, leave no room for nuance and they give way too much power to a third party. If we insist on the current format, it needs to be modified. Like have an off-camera panel of bi/nonpartisan fact checkers that must unanimously agree. If a statement is shown to be a lie then the candidates podium drops down six inches. If they lie a lot then by the end of the debate they have to sit on the floor to access their mic.

                            I think a way better format would be for the two candidates to agree do to three long form podcasts with no time limit, but a minimum of two hours. Each candidate would get to pick one host and the third would be someone from a news organization. No audience, minders, or any of the theater. Just the two candidates having a conversation in between betterhelpnow and athletic greens ads.

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                            • Originally posted by YOhio View Post

                              Debates really are ridiculous. The format is outdated, leave no room for nuance and they give way too much power to a third party. If we insist on the current format, it needs to be modified. Like have an off-camera panel of bi/nonpartisan fact checkers that must unanimously agree. If a statement is shown to be a lie then the candidates podium drops down six inches. If they lie a lot then by the end of the debate they have to sit on the floor to access their mic.

                              I think a way better format would be for the two candidates to agree do to three long form podcasts with no time limit, but a minimum of two hours. Each candidate would get to pick one host and the third would be someone from a news organization. No audience, minders, or any of the theater. Just the two candidates having a conversation in between betterhelpnow and athletic greens ads.
                              Awesome idea.
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Speaking of dumb moderators. The woman "corrected" trump by saying that there are no states where abortion is legal in the 9th month. That is a lie.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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