2024 Presidential Election Thread

[YOhio]

I heard Ruy Teixeira say today that Biden trails by 20 percent with working class voters. That's just shocking.

He agrees with a point I've made by the way that the college educated radical left has been at least for now liquidated as a political interest. The Brahmin left has disappeared from Europe and the US.

I'm surprised it's not more. James Carville has some good advice on this.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm surprised it's not more. James Carville has some good advice on this.

Ha. I have always liked that guy.

[frank ryan]

I think most, if not all, Dems would fail this kind of test...

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Sounds similar to the amount of liberals who voted against Trump in the previous elections. Which makes sense because it seems like a more rationale decision.

Everyone should go to therapy. Bragging about not doing it, is a weird flex.

[Uncle Ted]

Trump has volunteered to go with Grandpa Joe to take a Cognitive Test...

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There is nothing for Joe to worry about now. Trump will hold his hand. Then they can play a round of golf together.

[Bo Diddley]

Man, Trump is going to get so much mileage out of this.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Sounds similar to the amount of liberals who voted against Trump in the previous elections. Which makes sense because it seems like a more rationale decision.

Everyone should go to therapy. Bragging about not doing it, is a weird flex.

Lol. No, not everyone should be in therapy.

[Bo Diddley]

Lol. No, not everyone should be in therapy.

Probably almost everyone could benefit from therapy.

[frank ryan]

Lol. No, not everyone should be in therapy.

All the time? No, but everyone could benefit from it at some point in their lives. I don't think this is ridiculous JL.

I'm guessing his location has a lot more to do with his very scientific sample of the political persuasions of his clients.

[All-American]

The very fact that people are considering that press conference as a kind of test of fitness for office is very damning.

But the reason the movement against him keeps growing is the polls.

Americans watched the debate. Only the wonks care about the news conference yesterday.

Is the point here to win an election or to win the social media momentum within the Democratic Party?

In other words, is the point to remain the nominee or to win the election?

I heard Ruy Teixeira say today that Biden trails by 20 percent with working class voters. That's just shocking.

He agrees with a point I've made by the way that the college educated radical left has been at least for now liquidated as a political interest. The Brahmin left has disappeared from Europe and the US.

https://open.substack.com/pub/thelib...utm_medium=ios

So Biden's apologists need to stop it with the BS that the news conference yesterday changed anything.

Biden is on course for a blow out loss.

There's nothing in the future with potential to provide him uplift. He's just getting older every day.

And as the down ballot republicans get more name recognition closer to the election it will hurt the democrat opponents.

I don't think Democrats understand just how bad yesterday was for them.

If the wheels had fallen off-- again-- it would have been the death knell. Biden would have been replaced in a matter of days, the left could rally behind their new heiress, and they could do what they can to put up a fight in November. But by flashing a few fading memories of what once was, along with a few reminders that he is but a shadow of the things that have been, Biden is showing he will not go down without a fight-- even if he takes the party down with him, as seems very likely what will happen. All the while, Democrats are spending time fighting with Democrats instead of prosecuting the case against Trump or winning over independents. Every day this continues, they lose ground. And they are powerless to resist it.

I agree with just about everything SU said today, other than maybe a bit more pessimistic about what comes next. I admit, I have consistently underestimated Trump's appeal and danger, from the moment he announced to the moment he left Washington and down to the present. America will survive Trump-- I am still not worried about that. But make no mistake, he will cause real damage on his way out the pages of history.

Oh well. I will do the best I can to comfort myself while sitting on a surging 401k, reading Kagan's dissents before bedtime.

[Uncle Ted]

Here is an idea... Grandpa Joe could step aside for Matthew McConaughey (w/ Spencer Cox as his running mate):

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[PaloAltoCougar]

OK, but you said:



You are expecting an objective outcome from an inherently subjective question. That's not reasonable.

Again, I acknowledge it won't happen, but if the results. just the raw data, from a cognitive test (something substantially more than a MoCA or similar quickie) were published, it would become apparent that Biden is unfit and people would abandon Ship Biden once and for all.

And Trump's suggestion they take a cognitive test together is a card well-played. I'd counter with "I'll do it at the same time we release our tax returns for the past 10-20 years, our college transcripts, and cancel all existing NDAs we may have with women, encouraging them to come forward with as much detail as they wish about how we treated them." Sadly, none of the foregoing will happen, and we're stuck with what may be the least qualified, most unfit pair ever to vie for the presidency. The republic will survive and motor on, but it'll be leaking oil for a while.

[Bo Diddley]

Again, I acknowledge it won't happen, but if the results. just the raw data, from a cognitive test (something substantially more than a MoCA or similar quickie) were published, it would become apparent that Biden is unfit and people would abandon Ship Biden once and for all.

And Trump's suggestion they take a cognitive test together is a card well-played. I'd counter with "I'll do it at the same time we release our tax returns for the past 10-20 years, our college transcripts, and cancel all existing NDAs we may have with women, encouraging them to come forward with as much detail as they wish about how we treated them." Sadly, none of the foregoing will happen, and we're stuck with what may be the least qualified, most unfit pair ever to vie for the presidency. The republic will survive and motor on, but it'll be leaking oil for a while.

Once again, reality imitates fiction. Well, they aren't really alien monsters--at least afaik.

[Moliere]

Probably almost everyone could benefit from therapy.

If you define therapy as running or fishing or some other active outdoor activity, then I agree, almost everyone could benefit from therapy

[frank ryan]

If you define therapy as running or fishing or some other active outdoor activity, then I agree, almost everyone could benefit from therapy

Fishing and running are therapeutic, and often significantly so. But, I think you know what's not how therapy is defined. It is not ridiculous to suggest that at some stage in our lives we would benefit from meeting with a therapist. I think it's interesting there is pushback. It is not a panacea, but it's also very human. We all have grief, problems with a family member, witness disaster, maybe become impacted by the economy, crime etc., trouble in a relationship and contend with aging etc so it's a strange to me to scoff at the idea that therapy could useful.
Utah, Idaho and Wyoming are in the top 7 for suicide mortality rates. Clearly it's liberalism imperiling the minds of fragile snowflakes. Let's stigmatize it more.
I also find it weird (actually, I doubt) that twitter therapist guy has managed to keep track of the politics of his clients.

[Moliere]

Fishing and running are therapeutic, and often significantly so. But, I think you know what's not how therapy is defined. It is not ridiculous to suggest that at some stage in our lives we would benefit from meeting with a therapist. I think it's interesting there is pushback. It is not a panacea, but it's also very human. We all have grief, problems with a family member, witness disaster, maybe become impacted by the economy, crime etc., trouble in a relationship and contend with aging etc so it's a strange to me to scoff at the idea that therapy could useful.
Utah, Idaho and Wyoming are in the top 7 for suicide mortality rates. Clearly it's liberalism imperiling the minds of fragile snowflakes. Let's stigmatize it more.
I also find it weird (actually, I doubt) that twitter therapist guy has managed to keep track of the politics of his clients.

I'm not pushing back on therapy, it's needed in a lot of situations. I just think that it's needed more today than when I was a child because kids sit in their rooms all day looking at social media instead of going outside and doing things. The unrealistic expectations caused by social media trickle down to us making us feel inferior or broken, when in fact we aren't. I knew I was a normal kid because I spent significant amounts of time playing sports, camping, hangingout with friends, etc. I didn't need a therapist to tell me that some self doubts I had or some minor event was traumatizing. I knew it already because I experienced life.