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  • Moliere
    One man.....one pie
    • Oct 2009
    • 27869

    #3736
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    Yikes! The guy does not deserve four more years as president
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • YOhio
      Hipster Mode
      • Nov 2008
      • 26165

      #3737
      This is an interesting podcast with Kellyanne Conway and David Plouffe. Nice to listen to two people on opposite sides of the aisle be able to have a civil, somewhat objective conversation.

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      • YOhio
        Hipster Mode
        • Nov 2008
        • 26165

        #3738
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post

        Yikes! The guy does not deserve four more years as president
        Stories like that make me angry. Skipping important meetings with international leaders in the middle of a European war is inexcusable, much worse than looking like a vegetable in a televised debate.

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        • Goatnapper'96
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10924

          #3739
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post

          Stories like that make me angry. Skipping important meetings with international leaders in the middle of a European war is inexcusable, much worse than looking like a vegetable in a televised debate.
          It won't be helpful to our "democracy" to have conspiracy about the MSM and Democrat Party conspiring against the American People to be confirmed right before folks' very eyes. I know the preservation of democracy is such a hot issue to many so I have no doubt they will be all over understanding the implications of this one.
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
          -DOCTOR Wuap

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12343

            #3740
            Biden needs to step down. Jeff was right. I underestimated the seriousness of his decline, by pointing out the pass Trump has gotten for his senior moments. Side by side, Trump isn't sane, but he has more life and confidence. Elderly people can be notoriously stubborn. Trump's dysfunction isn't an excuse for Biden; rather it makes addressing it more urgent.

            Still, I'd vote for Biden over Trump no contest. I'd vote for my cat or or dog or a newborn infant or house plant before I'd vote him.

            And RFK Jr is not an alternative. Like Trump he has been immune from ordinary life because of privilege and fame. He has less malice but he is kind of dumb. He seems like he wants to be a Green Party candidate one minute and a Libertarian the next while not quite understanding the ethical framework of either movement. He's like a yoga mom who has discovered a neat blog or podcast and suddenly believes they are enlightened.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12343

              #3741
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post

              Stories like that make me angry. Skipping important meetings with international leaders in the middle of a European war is inexcusable, much worse than looking like a vegetable in a televised debate.
              Indeed. Just a prelude of Trump planning NATO's downfall. German intel is already planning for this. They should have upped their defensive and security spending before this though.

              Also, I don't really have any awareness of Kamala Harris have any gravitas in terms of foreign policy. That doesn't inspire confidence.

              We need skilled diplomats more than ever.

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              • Uncle Ted
                The Big 12 money shot.
                • Apr 2010
                • 28853

                #3742
                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                Biden needs to step down. Jeff was right. I underestimated the seriousness of his decline, by pointing out the pass Trump has gotten for his senior moments. Side by side, Trump isn't sane, but he has more life and confidence. Elderly people can be notoriously stubborn. Trump's dysfunction isn't an excuse for Biden; rather it makes addressing it more urgent.

                Still, I'd vote for Biden over Trump no contest. I'd vote for my cat or or dog or a newborn infant or house plant before I'd vote him.

                And RFK Jr is not an alternative. Like Trump he has been immune from ordinary life because of privilege and fame. He has less malice but he is kind of dumb. He seems like he wants to be a Green Party candidate one minute and a Libertarian the next while not quite understanding the ethical framework of either movement. He's like a yoga mom who has discovered a neat blog or podcast and suddenly believes they are enlightened.
                If Biden steps down then Dean Phillips should become the Dems candidate. He is in second place in the Dem candidate delegate count…

                https://www.usatoday.com/elections/r...tial-delegates

                the Dem party is all about democracy and stuff.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • YOhio
                  Hipster Mode
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26165

                  #3743
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                  If Biden steps down then Dean Phillips should become the Dems candidate. He is in second place in the Dem candidate delegate count…

                  https://www.usatoday.com/elections/r...tial-delegates

                  the Dem party is all about democracy and stuff.
                  I’d vote for Dean Phillips in a heartbeat.

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853

                    #3744
                    The rats are now staying on the USS Grandpa Joe and going down with the ship…



                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • BigFatMeanie
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7110

                      #3745
                      There was an interesting opinion piece in the Journal this morning about how under current election law Biden needs to stay in it until he is the official nominee and then he can step down and the $100M raised by his campaign can go towards Kamala. If he steps down now then he can only route $2K of his campaign fund to another candidate.

                      Lawyers would of course litigate all this and who knows how it would all turn out, but it was an interesting read all the same.

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #3746
                        It seems the Dems have all their differences worked out concerning Grandpa Joe…



                        They’re “riding with Biden”…

                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12343

                          #3747
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          It seems the Dems have all their differences worked out concerning Grandpa Joe…



                          They’re “riding with Biden”…

                          I don't think there is a great deal of solidarity.

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69669

                            #3748
                            Any young democrat who dares speak up against the boss gets taken behind the woodshed and straightened out quickly. It looks like the Biden crime family is going to survive the sfida al capo after all.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #3749
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              Any young democrat who dares speak up against the boss gets taken behind the woodshed and straightened out quickly. It looks like the Biden crime family is going to survive the sfida al capo after all.
                              Survive? Maybe. But they will be handing over the White House on a silver platter to Trump.

                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #3750
                                Here is Grandpa Joe's chance to win this thing... All he has to do is beat Trump at his own game.



                                And Trump is even giving him 20 strokes and bathroom breaks.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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