2024 Presidential Election Thread

[Jeff Lebowski]

Voting to help a candidate to victory is one things. But voting tallies can give candidates a sense of mandate or a sense of caution because it because the results were tight.

Yes.

Trump poses the greatest political threat to our country in 160 years. The most impactful thing anyone can do is vote for Joe Biden.

[All-American]

Yes.

Trump poses the greatest political threat to our country in 160 years. The most impactful thing anyone can do is vote for Joe Biden.

The Gracchi may have been, up to that point in time, the greatest internal threat to the stability of the Roman Republic since its inception. They are mere footnotes compared to what came after: Marius, Sulla, Pompey, and eventually Julius Caesar and Augustus.

It is not dismissiveness of the seriousness of Trump and his buffoonery to say, Trump doesn't scare me nearly as much as what comes after him.

The most impactful thing anyone can do to belay that threat is to send a message that we expect a better class of candidates than the ones being offered.

[falafel]

What do you think or hope people should do in term of the next election?

My comment was meant to highlight the all or nothing approach of fusnik, which is ridiculous. If I vote for 99 Ds and 1 R, I haven't done enough to satisfy him.

I hope people research all the races they intend to vote in and choose whoever represents their views the most.

[falafel]

I've never been a fan of the idea that we shouldn't tell people the truth lest they act accordingly.

The truth is that we actually count all the votes.

[All-American]

The truth is that we actually count all the votes.

The election of 2000 showed us that isn’t exactly true.

And even in that election, which was close as close can be, if you happened to be in one of the fifty states where the tally was close, your vote was still a very small fraction of a percent of the margin of difference. Which is why we didn’t start burning buildings down in a fit of outrage when it turns out we can’t even count with a particular degree of accuracy. It just doesn’t matter that much.

[Pelado]

Can somebody tell those douche nozzles to wear an undershirt and button up their dress shirts? WTF are they doing? I somehow feel embarrassed for Barron Trump that these guys surrounded him and posted up a pic with him...

*is that guy on the left wearing Crocs with his suit w the unbuttoned shirt?

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[Moliere]

My comment was meant to highlight the all or nothing approach of fusnik, which is ridiculous. If I vote for 99 Ds and 1 R, I haven't done enough to satisfy him.

I hope people research all the races they intend to vote in and choose whoever represents their views the most.

There are some absolute buffoons with a D next to their name in local elections around here. I will likely be voting for the R candidate in those races. Fusnik can interpret that however he wants but a straight ticket vote is almost as bad as not voting.

[USUC]

Not voting is a strategically sound and perfectly moral exercise when done with purpose. Lack of enthusiasm is a valuable metric, especially for the losing party. If I vote for a 3rd party or an independent whose values I more closely align, what better way to telegraph how a mainstream party may tweak their platform to include me? It's up to the parties to put up a candidate I will vote for. Neither party is entitled to my vote. I know my libertarian (small l) sensibilities aren't in high demand by either party. In fact both parties are quite hostile towards those ideas in favor of authoritarianism or nanny statism.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Not voting is a strategically sound and perfectly moral exercise when done with purpose. Lack of enthusiasm is a valuable metric, especially for the losing party. If I vote for a 3rd party or an independent whose values I more closely align, what better way to telegraph how a mainstream party may tweak their platform to include me? It's up to the parties to put up a candidate I will vote for. Neither party is entitled to my vote. I know my libertarian (small l) sensibilities aren't in high demand by either party. In fact both parties are quite hostile towards those ideas in favor of authoritarianism or nanny statism.

What does this have to do with stopping Donald Trump?

[beefytee]

What does this have to do with stopping Donald Trump?

The democrats are taking a huge risk campaigning that you need to vote for Biden to stop Trump. If they don’t offer up a vision for the future with them in charge rather than just dire predictions of when Trump is in charge, they risk not engaging voters like they need to. This will result in people voting for other third party candidates or just staying home

Biden is already a wounded candidate because of the effects of inflation and his visible physical and mental decline. There is a huge risk there. As people have mentioned here, fear and extreme behavior becomes normalized over time. People only have the energy for fear and anger for so long. It’s not something that can be sustained.

[Non Sequitur]

There are some absolute buffoons with a D next to their name in local elections around here. I will likely be voting for the R candidate in those races. Fusnik can interpret that however he wants but a straight ticket vote is almost as bad as not voting.

I couldn't agree more. Voting straight ticket is lazy.

[BigFatMeanie]

If Biden would dump Kamala Harris and go with a VP with half a brain, he would be much more palatable and certain types of voters would be more willing to take a risk on him; but the handlers and operators in the Democratic Party would never let that happen because certain types of voters would lose their minds if Biden dumped Kamala.

[Clark Addison]

I haven’t voted for a Republican for a federal position since Trump, and won’t for the foreseeable future. But I’ll occasionally vote R for a local or state office.

the last Republican I voted for at the federal level was Mitt.

[chrisrenrut]

People only have the energy for fear and anger for so long. It’s not something that can be sustained.

Not sure about this. This has been republicans main platform for over a decade, going back to the Teaparty.

[beefytee]

Not sure about this. This has been republicans main platform for over a decade, going back to the Teaparty.

They keep pushing fear, but they have moved the boogie man to keep the fear fresh.

The tea party was mostly about fiscal conservatism and limited government spending and reach.

Now grievances are about immigration and wokeness. Not much about limited government anymore.

If they want to keep pushing fear, they will need to adapt.

The culture wars will especially get old.