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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #3301
    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

    Vivek spoke too. That's odd they had them speaking. Trump promised to include a libertarian candidate and pardon the Silk Road guy. Creative campaigning move.
    What I am seeing from my fellow libertarians concerning Trump’s offer…

    IMG_2280.jpeg

    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #3302
      Another promise Trump made…



      LOL… I wonder what Pocahontas has to say about that.


      IMG_2281.jpeg
      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12402

        #3303
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

        What I am seeing from my fellow libertarians concerning Trump’s offer…

        IMG_2280.jpeg
        It's funny because Trump is the least libertarian and most authoritarian candidate out there. Republicans are increasingly trying to co-opt the Libertarian Party.

        Ted, this should be good news to you.

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        • Northwestcoug
          Cocked and Loaded
          • May 2011
          • 18045

          #3304
          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

          What I am seeing from my fellow libertarians concerning Trump’s offer…

          IMG_2280.jpeg
          Ha. Trump's 'indemnify all police' plan would be a non-starter for even fake libertarians.
          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
          - SeattleUte

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12402

            #3305
            Why is Ross Albrecht the cause celebre for the Libertarian Party?

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            • Clark Addison
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 10317

              #3306
              Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              Why is Ross Albrecht the cause celebre for the Libertarian Party?
              Gonna go out on a limb here...

              Because a lot of Libertarians are loons?

              (No offense USUC. I don't think you are a loon)

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              • USUC
                Chronic Poseur
                • Apr 2010
                • 8806

                #3307
                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                Why is Ross Albrecht the cause celebre for the Libertarian Party?
                Sentenced to double Life in prison (+40 years) without the possibility of parole for creating a network that mainly trafficked drugs. The allegations he put hits on 6 people were never proven. He was never charged. And those six people were never killed. This isn't my cause, but it does raise questions about the motivation and misuse of prosecutions.


                Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

                Gonna go out on a limb here...

                Because a lot of Libertarians are loons?

                (No offense USUC. I don't think you are a loon)
                I am a loon, but not because of my political beliefs. Due to the shift in the meaning of what a libertarian is, I prefer to call myself a minarchist.

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                • falafel
                  loves to talk on things
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 38010

                  #3308
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                  What I am seeing from my fellow libertarians concerning Trump’s offer…

                  IMG_2280.jpeg
                  Haha, no you're not.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Uncle Ted
                    The Big 12 money shot.
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 28853

                    #3309
                    Oh no, it's too late... the brain worms have moved into Grandpa Joe's head.

                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #3310
                      It seems the Dems are in freak out mode...




                      Dems in full-blown ‘freakout’ over Biden

                      A pervasive sense of fear has settled in at the highest levels of the Democratic Party over President Joe Biden’s reelection prospects, even among officeholders and strategists who had previously expressed confidence about the coming battle with Donald Trump.

                      All year, Democrats had been on a joyless and exhausting grind through the 2024 election. But now, nearly five months from the election, anxiety has morphed into palpable trepidation, according to more than a dozen party leaders and operatives. And the gap between what Democrats will say on TV or in print, and what they’ll text their friends, has only grown as worries have surged about Biden’s prospects.
                      [...]
                      While he’s long lagged Biden in cash on hand, Trump’s fundraising outpaced the president’s by $25 million last month, and included a record-setting $50.5 million haul from an event in Palm Beach, Florida. One adviser to major Democratic Party donors provided a running list that has been shared with funders of nearly two dozen reasons why Biden could lose, ranging from immigration and high inflation to the president’s age, the unpopularity of Vice President Kamala Harris and the presence of third-party candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
                      [...]
                      https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...biden-00160047

                      And the Biden campaign brings in Robert De Niro for a presser...



                      ...with folks signing "let's go brandon" in the background. But there is more, De Niro claims that Trump will never leave the office if he becomes president...

                      https://youtu.be/Xkb33QbDyPU?si=QP0_HJlY3nc0emcz&t=128
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 6030

                        #3311
                        josh shapiro/mitt romney august surprise

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                        • frank ryan
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12402

                          #3312
                          Originally posted by USUC View Post

                          Sentenced to double Life in prison (+40 years) without the possibility of parole for creating a network that mainly trafficked drugs. The allegations he put hits on 6 people were never proven. He was never charged. And those six people were never killed. This isn't my cause, but it does raise questions about the motivation and misuse of prosecutions.




                          I am a loon, but not because of my political beliefs. Due to the shift in the meaning of what a libertarian is, I prefer to call myself a minarchist.
                          What the hell is that?

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                          • USUC
                            Chronic Poseur
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 8806

                            #3313
                            Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                            What the hell is that?
                            It's essentially the belief that government plays a role in society, but only in the basic function of protecting property rights and national defense. Nozick, Hayek, Friedman, and moat of the serious 20th century libertarians believed this. The libertarian party today are mostly right wing anarchists with paleoconservative sympathies and are not serious thinkers. Maybe a better distinction would be "directional libertarians" who beleive change happens slowly and pushing through reforms should be done in the context of the cultural and political realities of the time vs "destinational libertarians" who want revolutionary change right now and reject anything short of their utopian ideal, despite societies "readiness" for it. I'm a directional libertarian.

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                            • fusnik
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4475

                              #3314
                              Originally posted by USUC View Post

                              It's essentially the belief that government plays a role in society, but only in the basic function of protecting property rights and national defense. Nozick, Hayek, Friedman, and moat of the serious 20th century libertarians believed this. The libertarian party today are mostly right wing anarchists with paleoconservative sympathies and are not serious thinkers. Maybe a better distinction would be "directional libertarians" who beleive change happens slowly and pushing through reforms should be done in the context of the cultural and political realities of the time vs "destinational libertarians" who want revolutionary change right now and reject anything short of their utopian ideal, despite societies "readiness" for it. I'm a directional libertarian.
                              you want a political philosophy that creates inefficient markets, allows people to burn fires in their back yards, dump shit into streams that go through their property while allowing children to do meth?

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                              • USUC
                                Chronic Poseur
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 8806

                                #3315
                                Originally posted by fusnik View Post

                                you want a political philosophy that creates inefficient markets, allows people to burn fires in their back yards, dump shit into streams that go through their property while allowing children to do meth?
                                You don't know what you are taking about. At least attempt to understand the basic tenets of a philosophy before building your strawman.

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