The Mass Shooting Thread

[BlueK]

I had similar thoughts. I wonder how the Gofundme accounts for families for the victims compare.

What I have experienced personally living outside of Utah is that Mainstream Christianity is almost all kind and respectful. It's a part of Evangelicalism that is not so much. We live down the street from a family where the dad is a Lutheran pastor. Great people and good friends. Their son and my 15 year old daughter are friends and we share rides getting the kids back and forth from school, band and softball/baseball practice. The other night the dad was asking my daughter about what she's learning in seminary and she said he was very supportive and respectful of it. I know some have experienced different things in Texas but I've lived in the DFW area for 30 years and have not really ever experienced the level of anti Mormon stuff I did when a teenager living in Sandy, Utah. I think times have also changed a bit since the 80s too.

[Moliere]

Agreed.

Evangelicals love to hate on Mormons...but they love one thing more than that and that's money. I highly doubt they are contributing to the fund for the cynical reason you were wondering.

[MartyFunkhouser]

This feels like a public attempt to purchase cachet and/or goodwill. I suspect most people are not donating out of concern for the shooter's family or because they sympathize with their loss. Rather, they are donating because of the image this creates for members of the Church vis-a-vis mainstream Christianity. We just can't shake our desperation to be accepted, and we're willing to spend our own money in hopes that it will convince others that we're Christians. That said, doing good things for the wrong reasons is better than doing the wrong thing or not doing anything. Ultimately, turning the other cheek is always a positive, so I'm glad it's happening.

Sorry, it's cynical, but I can't deny that's what comes to mind with this campaign. If that makes me the most cynical person on this board, I'm fine with that.

Chris Rock turning the other cheek at the Oscars got us this line from Malice on the new Clipse album, so I agree.

Never turn the other cheek, you'll die at the Oscars

In fact, that whole verse by Malice on Ace Trumpets is great:

Penne alla vodka, Panama fishin' village
Visitin' with papa, with choppers
All of you imposter
Simply just Ferrari window shoppers
The one that I just ordered look like it was built by NASA
Over half a mill' we call focaccia, reachin' for acacia
Never leavin' home without my piece like I'm Mahatma
From the tribe of Judah, I'm Mufasa
Never turn the other cheek, you'll die at the Oscars
Persona non grata, mi casa su casa
Drugs killed my teen spirit, welcome to Nirvana
You was Fu-Gee-La-La, I was Alibaba
Dressed in House of Gucci, made from sellin' Lady Gaga
Hakuna Matata, island wearing tie-dye
Umbrella in my Rolls match the one that's in this Mai Tai
Listen, you are not I, cross T's, dot I's
I done disappeared and reappeared without a "Voila"

[MartyFunkhouser]

You could have thrown in how horrible it is that a wealthy church sits back and let's their member's pony up when they have enough money to help all of these people. I have seen that response a few times on X already.

That is really stupid to say.

I can understand why someone wouldn't want to donate to rebuild the church. The LDS church has that covered without a doubt. Also, I am 100% certain that any of the victims of this tragedy that are members will be taken care of by the LDS church.

[Pelado]

Yeah, that's even more cynical than pelado's take. Yeesh.

Respectfully disagree.

[falafel]

I had similar thoughts. I wonder how the Gofundme accounts for families for the victims compare.

Now THAT'S a cynical take.

[Pelado]

Now THAT'S a cynical take.

I'll admit to wondering that, too. Do I win a prize?

[falafel]

I'll admit to wondering that, too. Do I win a prize?

sure buddy. just keep coming back to church.

[chrisrenrut]

Now THAT'S a cynical take.

I’m happy to say there are some well funded campaigns for multiple victims. A couple are over $100k, but none come close to the $231k the victims family has so far.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...s/86443082007/

[Jeff Lebowski]

I’m happy to say there are some well funded campaigns for multiple victims. A couple are over $100k, but none come close to the $231k the victims family has so far.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...s/86443082007/

Get out there and donate, brother!

[YOhio]

I mean, this just reeks of "watch me turn my cheek so hard, bro!".

This is great. If there's an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other, Donuthole will inevitably do what the angel says. Yet can't help himself from repeating what the devil is whispering.

[LiveCoug]

I’m happy to say there are some well funded campaigns for multiple victims. A couple are over $100k, but none come close to the $231k the victims family has so far.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...s/86443082007/

I feel like the forgive your enemy gofundme had way more viral traction, rightly or wrongly, and that's why it has more.

[Northwestcoug]

The GoFundMe campaign for the shooter’s family is in the NYT today. One Y professor donated 1K.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/u...e=articleShare

[MartyFunkhouser]

I'm glad to see for once that I'm not the most cynical one here.

[myboynoah]

I'm glad to see for once that I'm not the most cynical one here.