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Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostThis is what happens when you don't believe in evil.
For one thing, so far as I know, Polanski was a one time offender, whereas Sandusky was a serial predator. Equating the two is ridiculous.This is where I'm coming from. I don't believe Polanski's behavior was a one-time aberration. If it was, then I can see your point. But, I remain unconvinced.Originally posted by creekster View PostPolanski was alleged to have done this same sort of thing prior to the incident to which he admitted. It was in the Slate article as I recall."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I don't know about that. He was prosecuted once. If he molested a bunch of little girls over decades he'd be just as bad as Sandusky. If that's wuap's point, there are better ways to make it.Originally posted by creekster View PostPolanski was alleged to have done this same sort of thing prior to the incident to which he admitted. It was in the Slate article as I recall.
Wuap gets the award for generating the most appalling threads here. Yes, Hollywood directors and coaches should be similalry punished for like crimes, and molesting young girls and boys is equally reprehensible. OF COURSE.
But so far as I know, and apparently the evidence shows, he's not as evil as some LDS icons.
Here is what the one known victim has said.
For what it's worth he pled guilty to the one crime for which he was prosecuted, admitted what he did, and was planning to fulfill his deal with the prosecutor and fled after he heard the judge would reject the deal. It doesn't excuse his sex crime or flouting of the rule of law, but from a cosmic perspective, it is some mitigation.During a television interview on 10 March 2011, Geimer blamed the media, reporters, the court, and the judge for causing "way more damage to [her] and her family than anything Roman Polanski has ever done," and stated that the judge was using her and a noted celebrity for his own personal gain from the media exposure. -- WikipediaWhen a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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If that's your point then your point is worse than I thought. On the one hand you have innuendo against Polansky, and on the other you have a convinction in a criminal court for 10 discrete instances of child molestation. It's not the same thing. Who could argue otherwise?Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostThis is where I'm coming from. I don't believe Polanski's behavior was a one-time aberration. If it was, then I can see your point. But, I remain unconvinced.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Not really.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostFor what it's worth he pled guilty to the one crime for which he was prosecuted, admitted what he did, and was planning to fulfill his deal with the prosecutor and fled after he heard the judge would reject the deal. It doesn't excuse his sex crime or flouting of the rule of law, but from a cosmic perspective, it is some mitigation.
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Don't know about what? That it was alleged? It was. read the article. That it was in the article? It might not be slate, and I am too lazy to look it up, but it was in the article that was linked here at some point in the past. Just google a little; it doesn't take much to find it. Or do you mean that it hasn't been proved to you? Probably not. But if this is the distinction you are hanging your hat on, it is very, very thin with respect to Polanski.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI don't know about that.
What if it was a bunch of little girls within five days? What if it was only two? Or three? I don't think it makes much difference.He was prosecuted once. If he molested a bunch of little girls over decades he'd be just as bad as Sandusky. If that's wuap's point, there are better ways to make it.
Then what is your point?Wuap gets the award for generating the most appalling threads here. Yes, Hollywood directors and coaches should be similalry punished for like crimes, and molesting young girls and boys is equally reprehensible. OF COURSE.
Nice touch. Even when you are leaving alone your inability to leave it alone you can't leave it alone.But so far as I know, and apparently the evidence shows, he's not as evil as some LDS icons.
So what? This is only true because he has avoided sentencing and lived a high profile life for DECADES and so dredging it up now is painful for her. Should he benefit from it? Is her feeling the only concern? Several of Sandusky's victims were reluctant, too, should we have avoided pursuing him for those crimes? And what of the crime of flight itself? You are urging us to believe that two wrongs (rape and flight) make a forgiving right (welcome home Roman! Nice film!). And all of this because he was afraid that a judge might renege on a plea deal and punish for the full extent of his crime? Doesn't this completely undercut your claim that his admission should be a mitigating factor? Apparently he was only willing to face his punishment on his own terms, which doesn't show much remorse or acceptance of responsibility.Here is what the one known victim has said.
I think your entire approach here has to be viewed from some sort of cosmic perspective to make any sense at all.For what it's worth he pled guilty to the one crime for which he was prosecuted, admitted what he did, and was planning to fulfill his deal with the prosecutor and fled after he heard the judge would reject the deal. It doesn't excuse his sex crime or flouting of the rule of law, but from a cosmic perspective, it is some mitigation.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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TROLL.Originally posted by creekster View PostDon't know about what? That it was alleged? It was. read the article. That it was in the article? It might not be slate, and I am too lazy to look it up, but it was in the article that was linked here at some point in the past. Just google a little; it doesn't take much to find it. Or do you mean that it hasn't been proved to you? Probably not. But if this is the distinction you are hanging your hat on, it is very, very thin with respect to Polanski.
What if it was a bunch of little girls within five days? What if it was only two? Or three? I don't think it makes much difference.
Then what is your point?
Nice touch. Even when you are leaving alone your inability to leave it alone you can't leave it alone.
So what? This is only true because he has avoided sentencing and lived a high profile life for DECADES and so dredging it up now is painful for her. Should he benefit from it? Is her feeling the only concern? Several of Sandusky's victims were reluctant, too, should we have avoided pursuing him for those crimes? And what of the crime of flight itself? You are urging us to believe that two wrongs (rape and flight) make a forgiving right (welcome home Roman! Nice film!). And all of this because he was afraid that a judge might renege on a plea deal and punish for the full extent of his crime? Doesn't this completely undercut your claim that his admission should be a mitigating factor? Apparently he was only willing to face his punishment on his own terms, which doesn't show much remorse or acceptance of responsibility.
I think your entire approach here has to be viewed from some sort of cosmic perspective to make any sense at all.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Good God, man. Appalling threads? Seriously? Are you going to faint?Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostI don't know about that. He was prosecuted once. If he molested a bunch of little girls over decades he'd be just as bad as Sandusky. If that's wuap's point, there are better ways to make it.
Wuap gets the award for generating the most appalling threads here. Yes, Hollywood directors and coaches should be similalry punished for like crimes, and molesting young girls and boys is equally reprehensible. OF COURSE.
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/ro...nscript?page=0
My viscera reacted the same way to that file as it did to the Sandusky grand jury report. Both men are guilty of the same thing. Polanski's co-conspirators can't be fired the way Sandusky's were, but the acts are the same. Both men raped children.
Anyone who looks down upon attempts at construction of a moral hierarchy around these cases.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostIf that's your point then your point is worse than I thought. On the one hand you have innuendo against Polansky, and on the other you have a convinction in a criminal court for 10 discrete instances of child molestation. It's not the same thing. Who could argue otherwise?"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...journed-787514
On Thursday, a court in the Polish city of Krakow adjourned until May 22 on a hearing to decide whether to extraditeRoman Polanski to the U.S. to face sentencing for raping a 13-year-old girl in 1977."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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Dude got away with statutory rape for 40 years. I have no problem if he spends what little time he has left behind bards, but I do feel bad for the victim, who has previously stated that she wants the whole thing to go away and will have the burden of the spotlight if he's extradited.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson
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Originally posted by Green Monstah View PostDude got away with statutory rape for 40 years. I have no problem if he spends what little time he has left behind bards, but I do feel bad for the victim, who has previously stated that she wants the whole thing to go away and will have the burden of the spotlight if he's extradited.
Well, he's no Shakespeare, no matter how much he might have bragged to her."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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On what do you base your assertion?Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostPolanski will never be extradited to the US."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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