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When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
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http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_phill...oman-polanski/
I'm not quite sure why, but this article ticks me off."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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the article (as in you disagree with it) or the facts of the case?Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostComment
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so what irks you? Is it that Polanski is free? Or that there is the talk of sexually abusing boys is worse then girls.. Or the other topics he broaches..Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
Interesting read..Comment
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It ticks me off that Polanski is getting special treatment, which I think is what ticks you off.Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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Yes, I refuse to watch Polanski films; reading the Smoking Gun files about the case convinced me of his guilt. But, I don't think I really agree with him that our culture treats the abuse of children differently according to sex. I guess I'm just ticked that he used these cases to create a point that I don't think is as huge as it might've been 25 years ago. If anything, I'd say that the teacher sex cases disprove his point considerably.Originally posted by LA Ute View Post"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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I also read the smoking gun report and agree with you. The fact actors like Johnny Depp (who I like% defends him among many others makes me sick...Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostComment
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People who hold special places in the culture get a pass.Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
I don't agree, but it's not surprising. Even Sandusky, an effing football coach, got about as much of a pass as a person can get. Polanski, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, etc. etc. etc. Guilty or not, there were always plenty of people rushing to their defense not because of any persona knowledge of their innocence or even moral fiber, but because they didn't want their idol burned at the stake. Not only is there no bigger indictment of our idolatrous culture than this phenomenon, it is also one illustration of why idolatry is bad.
Last edited by Commando; 07-24-2012, 11:49 AM."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"Comment
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Well put and this, I believe, is what I wanted to say, but couldn't figure out how to articulate. Thank you.Originally posted by Commando View PostPeople who hold special places in the culture get a pass. I don't agree, but it's not surprising. Even Sandusky, an effing football coach, got about as much of a pass as a person can get. Polanski, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, etc. etc. etc. Guilty or not, there were always plenty of people rushing to their defense not because of any persona knowledge of their innocence or even moral fiber, but because they didn't want their idol burned at the stake. Not only is there no bigger indictment of our idolatrous culture than this phenomenon, it is also one illustration of why idolatry is bad."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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So true. But its also easy to point the finger at others as we're a tribal cuture. It's easy to laugh at a TV Evangelist who is "outed" but wonder if the Mormons would circle the wagons if it happened to a popular GA. Always thought Michael Jackson was a bit "weird" being a product of Motown and Hollywood so wasn't surprised. But am truly shocked at Joe Paterno - something much closer to home. No one wants their idol burned at the stake - but all too often we're willing to burn the idol of others.Originally posted by Commando View PostPeople who hold special places in the culture get a pass. I don't agree, but it's not surprising. Even Sandusky, an effing football coach, got about as much of a pass as a person can get. Polanski, Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, etc. etc. etc. Guilty or not, there were always plenty of people rushing to their defense not because of any persona knowledge of their innocence or even moral fiber, but because they didn't want their idol burned at the stake. Not only is there no bigger indictment of our idolatrous culture than this phenomenon, it is also one illustration of why idolatry is bad.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafelComment
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Polansky's and Sandusky's crimes are not equal.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan SwiftComment
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(without sarcasm) Can you please elaborate on this idea? I have equated them in mind as two sides of the same predatory coin. I'd like a nuanced reasoning (which I know you can provide) against my opinion. Perhaps some introspection on my part is needed. I just can't see much difference, knowing the facts of the cases.Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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This is what happens when you don't believe in evil.Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
For one thing, so far as I know, Polanski was a one time offender, whereas Sandusky was a serial predator. Equating the two is ridiculous.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
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