Originally posted by bluegoose
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I seem to recall Jeff Galloway saying that the reason people so commonly hit the wall at 20 miles is that most training schedules stop at 20 miles. It sort of makes sense, although I haven't heard anyone else say that.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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I've wondered about that myself. It seems to make logical sense that adding on another 6 miles after running 20 miles already would be tough. But my experience in Ogden last year seems to defy that logic - as my last 6 miles were my fastest.Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
I do remember reading in Hal Higdon's book something about not needing to have a long run more than 20 miles - unless you are hard core and trying to place or win - and he tied it into some logical physiological reasoning...that I don't happen to remember.
That said, I can see myself eventually adding more miles as I train for subsequent marathons.
I have my own aspirations to run in Boston some day. Luckily it will take some time to save up for the trip, so I have time to work on getting faster. And I see adding miles both during the week and on the long runs as ultimately helping with this.
I figure if I can push it to get just a little bit faster each year, at some point my speed will cross paths with my age bracket to qualify and I'll be in!Comment
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My overall pace on most of the long runs has been in the 8 0-something range. My fastest was 7:50. My marathon goal pace is 7:30.Originally posted by bluegoose View Post
That was the theory when I decided to up the mileage on the long runs. I always felt like death after 20 miles, so I thought I'd try to get used to going longer.Comment
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Hot day at Boston tomorrow:
http://universalsports.com/2012/04/1...unishing-heat/
Good luck, SeaChicken! 87 degrees--ugh.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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Could reach 90 this morning. Apparently they were offering automatic qualification next year for any of this year's qualifiers who wanted out. Having lived there, 90 in Boston felt more miserable than 110 feels in NorCal.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostComment
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My wife ran it in 2004. It was HOT. Looks like it will be about the same this year. Not a good day to have a noon start.
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You ran, you finished and you lived to tell the tale. I'm very impressed. Congratulations on doing what few could do.Originally posted by Sea Chicken View PostComment
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I don't know what you can do to prepare for those conditions. I also read that a lot of the water stations had warm water? Wtf??Originally posted by Sea Chicken View Post
Nice job. You ran Boston. Who cares what the time was?At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
-Berry Trammel, 12/3/10Comment
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It'll be a badge of honor to say you ran and finished the 2012. Last year's winner can't even lay claim to finishing this year. I know you were ready to go faster than you've ever gone, but mother nature wasn't having it. I suppose there's a good life lesson in there somewhere, right? Congrats, and know that your race was very impressive.Originally posted by Sea Chicken View PostComment
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How hot did it end up getting? From what I can tell it still did not get as hot as 2004. Man that was brutal to watch.
It is impressive just to finish. Way to go.Comment
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Thanks for the kind words everybody. I'm back home now and the legs are recovering. It really was an awesome experience and I have no regrets. My training was solid, the heat just kicked my butt. If you ever have get the chance to run Boston, do it. It is amazing.Comment
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That was quite the experience, SC. Way to tough it out.
My wife's dad and sister were both there. They are from Montana and not used to running in the heat at all. My SIL has done close to 10 marathons and my FIL has done 30-40, including a number of ultras. They both say it was the hardest race that they have done. I think that my FIL has somehow forgotten the Marathon de Sables that he did about 10 years ago, but that is beside the point. Their times were about 45 minutes slower than projected.
Even still, they say the same thing that you said. It was still a great experience, despite the heat and the suffering during the race.Comment
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Sea Chicken - great report. While I know you wanted to perform better - just qualifying and then having the experience sounds great. I have hopes for myself for one day - and find myself wondering if I would train to try for a PR, or coast and take it all in. It would be nice to be in the position of having to decide...
I ran into a little hitch in my training this past weekend.
Back on the 14th I was scheduled to go 18 for my long run, but felt really good about 3/4 of the way in and decided to stretch it to 20. I thought it might allow me to get two 20 milers in.
This past Saturday I was scheduled to step back to 14, and thought I might also bump it to 16. But my hamstring went tight about 3-4 miles in. I was able to finish, but by the end of the day it was more than just tight and had gotten sore. Yesterday I was feeling it, and while it is less so today, it is still sore.
I'm really hoping I haven't pulled something and done some serious damage. And I've decided to cut out my weekday runs this week and then try to still take in a long run on Saturday again.
I'm trying to decide if I added too many miles last week - but also thinking that if that was the case, why did it wait until the end of the this week to show itself?
Good news is there is still plenty of time to recover before race day. But I don't want to lose any fitness while waiting to recover.
Injuries suck.Comment
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Are you doing Ogden again?Comment
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