The Official Thread for Runners

[Jeff Lebowski]

So when I get to 140 or above it's typically time for me to start walking for several paces and let it recover. I don't mean to suggest that I do 140 for the entirety of four miles (I don't think suffering is productive; I don't know how you hike in your heat). My pace is uneven.

"VO2 max is trained by doing short bouts of high-intensity exercise at a level near your maximum heart rate. Even though the overall time dedicated might be the same, a person doing weekly zone 5 training (e.g., 30 minutes dedicated to 4×4 interval training) should not be lumped in with someone who happened to move briskly for a minute at 30 discreet times over the span of a week.'

Cumulative time spent in “vigorous” physical activity lowers mortality risk (peterattiamd.com)

Moreover, my resting heart rate (while sleeping) is 43, 51 recently as measured while awake at Dexafit. So getting up to 140 takes a while and work even when I'm running.

Hiking, I don't know if I would ever get up to140, unless I really increased the pace (i.e., effectively ran) or it was really steep. Maybe in Utah, since I live on the seacoast, it would be different. I've noticed my heartrate is elevated in Utah.

That's a really interesting article. Thanks. From the article:

VO2 max is trained by doing short bouts of high-intensity exercise at a level near your maximum heart rate.

It also says that a total of 54 minutes per week is optimal. I am pretty confident that I am doing at least that, but I am going to start paying more attention to my heart rate while working out.

We don't hike in the heat. Early morning only.

[SeattleUte]

That's a really interesting article. Thanks.

This is the author's famous book that I found revelatory.

Amazon.com: Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity (Audible Audio Edition): Peter Attia MD, Bill Gifford - contributor, Peter Attia MD, Random House Audio: Audible Books & Originals

[SeattleUte]

That's a really interesting article. Thanks. From the article:



It also says that a total of 54 minutes per week is optimal. I am pretty confident that I am doing at least that, but I am going to start paying more attention to my heart rate while working out.

We don't hike in the heat. Early morning only.

Get one of those chest straps that connects to your watch and an app. I've found that my Garmin wristwatch is very out of touch with my actual heart rate.

[BigPiney]

This is the author's famous book that I found revelatory.

Amazon.com: Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity (Audible Audio Edition): Peter Attia MD, Bill Gifford - contributor, Peter Attia MD, Random House Audio: Audible Books & Originals

Great book.

I'd love to find a doctor in close proximity that does the types of tests he recommendeds.

When I run I struggle to keep my heart rate low. Last week I did a 5 mile run, too late in the morning so it was getting hot, but my average was 152 with the max being 177. And this was at a pace :30 slower than my typical. My heart like to take off and stay at a high rate.

[SeattleUte]

Great book.

I'd love to find a doctor in close proximity that does the types of tests he recommendeds.

When I run I struggle to keep my heart rate low. Last week I did a 5 mile run, too late in the morning so it was getting hot, but my average was 152 with the max being 177. And this was at a pace :30 slower than my typical. My heart like to take off and stay at a high rate.

You can find them in concierge medicine.

[SeattleUte]

Great book.

I'd love to find a doctor in close proximity that does the types of tests he recommendeds.

When I run I struggle to keep my heart rate low. Last week I did a 5 mile run, too late in the morning so it was getting hot, but my average was 152 with the max being 177. And this was at a pace :30 slower than my typical. My heart like to take off and stay at a high rate.

Regarding heart rate, I found the gadgets make a huge difference. My old Garmin sometimes had me spiking like you. My new one would have me at 90 after over a mile, even though I knew it was much higher. So, I got one of those chest straps.

[happyone]

All this talk about heart rates etc, makes think I'm a slacker. I just walk fast - 5 to 8 miles a day. roughly 16-17 min per mile. When I finish, Ill take my BP and heart rate. The BP is roughly 105/60 and my heart rate is in the low 90s. I've tried jogging, but about 10 yrs or so ago I badly hyper extended my left knee coming off a curb wrong. I must have stretched something in there, ever since then whenever I try and jog/run is seems like someone is sticking an icepick into it. That's about all the joint pain I have. I can walk ok though.

I normally walk between 140/150 miles a month

If you see some short, stout guy wandering around Layton/Kaysville in sweatpants and an Army Baseball cap it's probably me

[Pelado]

All this talk about heart rates etc, makes think I'm a slacker. I just walk fast - 5 to 8 miles a day. roughly 16-17 min per mile. When I finish, Ill take my BP and heart rate. The BP is roughly 105/60 and my heart rate is in the low 90s. I've tried jogging, but about 10 yrs or so ago I badly hyper extended my left knee coming off a curb wrong. I must have stretched something in there, ever since then whenever I try and jog/run is seems like someone is sticking an icepick into it. That's about all the joint pain I have. I can walk ok though.

I normally walk between 140/150 miles a month

If you see some short, stout guy wandering around Layton/Kaysville in sweatpants and an Army Baseball cap it's probably me

Have you tried swimming or cycling? Any knee pain there?

[Bo Diddley]

So when I get to 140 or above it's typically time for me to start walking for several paces and let it recover. I don't mean to suggest that I do 140 for the entirety of four miles (I don't think suffering is productive; I don't know how you hike in your heat). My pace is uneven.

"VO2 max is trained by doing short bouts of high-intensity exercise at a level near your maximum heart rate. Even though the overall time dedicated might be the same, a person doing weekly zone 5 training (e.g., 30 minutes dedicated to 4×4 interval training) should not be lumped in with someone who happened to move briskly for a minute at 30 discreet times over the span of a week.'

Cumulative time spent in “vigorous” physical activity lowers mortality risk (peterattiamd.com)

Moreover, my resting heart rate (while sleeping) is 43, 51 recently as measured while awake at Dexafit. So getting up to 140 takes a while and work even when I'm running.

Hiking, I don't know if I would ever get up to140, unless I really increased the pace (i.e., effectively ran) or it was really steep. Maybe in Utah, since I live on the seacoast, it would be different. I've noticed my heartrate is elevated in Utah.

V02 max is huge in cycling too.

You wanna get your heart rate up hiking? Just carry a heavy pack. We went snowshoeing up South Fork a few years back and I had about 120# of weight. We camped a couple miles up the trail and I was pouring sweat. My heart rate was absolutely maxed out.

[Jeff Lebowski]

V02 max is huge in cycling too.

You wanna get your heart rate up hiking? Just carry a heavy pack. We went snowshoeing up South Fork a few years back and I had about 120# of weight. We camped a couple miles up the trail and I was pouring sweat. My heart rate was absolutely maxed out.

120 lbs!

After losing 20 lbs, I was pleasantly surprised at what a difference it made for hiking.

[happyone]

Have you tried swimming or cycling? Any knee pain there?

some swimming - no pain, except getting to the pool

[Bo Diddley]

120 lbs!

After losing 20 lbs, I was pleasantly surprised at what a difference it made for hiking.

Yeah, I had an axe and a large bundle of wood, cooking gear, etc. It might actually have been closer to one mile up.

[Jeff Lebowski]

OK, so I monitored my heart rate during my latest Peleton workout. I was near my max heartrate almost the entire time (30 minute workout). This 54 minutes per week VO2 max target will be a snap.

[Jeff Lebowski]

So following our conversation, I monitored my heart rate during a recent peloton ride and I was near my max heart rate during most of the 30 minute ride. So 54 minutes per week of VO2 Max should be a piece of cake.

[SteelBlue]

I've really enjoyed this series on Clayton Young (and Connor Mantz by default) and his marathon build to Paris. Production value is shockingly good for a youtube series. Guessing maybe Asics is funding it. I am in awe at the workouts these guys crush and it's fun to see them running in spots I used to haunt in my Provo days. Episodes are short and will mostly be of interest if you enjoy seeing how a coach structures workouts for elite athletes. I found Young mildly annoying in the beginning (strong AP vibes) but have grown to really like him and I feel really invested in these two now. I think any fan of running would find the series interesting and entertaining.