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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69813

    #631
    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
    That feels like a copout to me.

    At any rate, I think any angst could be avoided by (a) being more transparent, and (b) quit thumping our chests about not having a paid ministry.
    Sincerely,

    John Dehlin
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Green Monstah
      Royal Rooter
      • Aug 2010
      • 14016

      #632
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Sincerely,

      John Dehlin
      Ouch. Going for the jugular.

      To make myself feel better, I'm going to state that JD blocked my comments (again) on his site when I suggested that his publication of private conversations between GAs and disaffected members probably made transparency less likely.
      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #633
        Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
        "Millions of local unpaid ministry"
        There you go!
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • Green Monstah
          Royal Rooter
          • Aug 2010
          • 14016

          #634
          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
          There you go!
          If you're counting "millions," then I'm going to force you to add fulltime CES employees to your 200 figure.
          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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          • myboynoah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 21719

            #635
            Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
            If you're counting "millions," then I'm going to force you to add fulltime CES employees to your 200 figure.
            That's fine, but just the instructors.

            It's the millions of unpaid ministry that make this whole thing work.
            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Green Monstah
              Royal Rooter
              • Aug 2010
              • 14016

              #636
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              That's fine, but just the instructors.

              It's the millions of unpaid ministry that make this whole thing work.
              I think millions is being disingenuous.

              I love the defensiveness. I don't have a problem with GA salaries. I would not take a job if it paid 120k. But it's not hard to see how it could cause some folks to pause. There are easy solutions to help prevent those folks from getting caught up on this.
              Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

              "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #637
                Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                I think millions is being disingenuous.

                I love the defensiveness. I don't have a problem with GA salaries. I would not take a job if it paid 120k. But it's not hard to see how it could cause some folks to pause. There are easy solutions to help prevent those folks from getting caught up on this.
                Dude, just correcting your misrepresentation. And it's true, the unpaid ministry make this whole thing work. Don't know what's so defensive about that.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • Green Monstah
                  Royal Rooter
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 14016

                  #638
                  Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                  Dude, just correcting your misrepresentation. And it's true, the unpaid ministry make this whole thing work. Don't know what's so defensive about that.
                  What did I misrepresent?
                  Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                  "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69813

                    #639
                    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                    I think millions is being disingenuous.

                    I love the defensiveness. I don't have a problem with GA salaries. I would not take a job if it paid 120k. But it's not hard to see how it could cause some folks to pause. There are easy solutions to help prevent those folks from getting caught up on this.
                    Oh boy. Keep whacking away at those straw men!
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Green Monstah
                      Royal Rooter
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 14016

                      #640
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Oh boy. Keep whacking away at those straw men!
                      What straw men are you referencing?
                      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                      • myboynoah
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 21719

                        #641
                        Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                        What did I misrepresent?
                        Your misrepresentation about The Church saying it does not have a paid ministry. It clearly doesn't.
                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Green Monstah
                          Royal Rooter
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 14016

                          #642
                          Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                          Your misrepresentation about The Church saying it does not have a paid ministry. It clearly doesn't.
                          You're being ambiguous.
                          Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                          "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                          • falafel
                            loves to talk on things
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 38030

                            #643
                            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            for reference, a first year graduate from law school in salt lake makes $120k.
                            Well, at about 2 firms. Average has got to be more like $80k.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #644
                              Originally posted by falafel View Post
                              Well, at about 2 firms. Average has got to be more like $80k.
                              Maybe you should consider moving to SLC and taking the Utah bar.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 38030

                                #645
                                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                Maybe you should consider moving to SLC and taking the Utah bar.
                                I'm from SLC and have been Utah barred for a decade. Looked at going back there, but even my own firm (which has an SLC office) pays less in SLC than Vegas. Then there's the state income tax I'd pay in Utah.
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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