general conference april 2019

[Bo Diddley]

I was going to say something facetious about what's going on there with the bread, but it just kind of hit me how sacred that ordinance is. That's all.

[falafel]

Lolwut

The bread trays are covered before the water is blessed. Handbook 2, 20.4.3. Hard to cover the bread trays if there's a tray by the door.

Its not that hard to do. In fact, its just as simple as if the missing tray were on the table with the rest.

[Walter Sobchak]

She knows exactly how I feel about it. I've stopped complaining about it to her long ago. She shows up when she shows up and I just sit there and wait patiently. But she knows that it still bugs me to no end.

I will say that she's gotten better about it.

Women. Always late, am I right? No wonder they won't get the priesthood. Way too irresponsible.

Just gotta love 'em and make sure the diaper bag is full and there are Cheerios in the cupboard.

[mtnbiker]

I helped pass about a month or so ago and had to go get the bread for a gentleman who missed it.

I helped pass about a month ago and snubbed a family who came sauntering down the hall while I was administering the water to others. I figure that if they think it's an important ordinance, they'll get there in time for it.

[BigFatMeanie]

Bishops can put a stop to the practice of asking Deacon's to go back and getting a bread tray. Some bishops do so, some don't.

[Uncle Ted]

Bishops can put a stop to the practice of asking Deacon's to go back and getting a bread tray. Some bishops do so, some don't.

Our bishop just announces if anyone was missed they can come and see him after sacrament and he will get them some before the teachers put it away... Seems to work well and is a nice compromise for all those dummies that come in late. I overhead one guy that actually took him up on his invitation. He just told him to help himself to it and pointed to the table.

[Moliere]

Our bishop just announces if anyone was missed they can come and see him after sacrament and he will get them some before the teachers put it away... Seems to work well and is a nice compromise for all those dummies that come in late. I overhead one guy that actually took him up on his invitation. He just told him to help himself to it and pointed to the table.

Same for our ward. One lady came up afterwards and asked for the whole sacrament because she was late. I grabbed one of each tray before the teachers cleaned them out and just held it out to her while everyone passed by on their way to class. she seemed a bit put off since I think she expected me to redo the whole prayer and ordinance in a separate room. I just told her it was blessed and has the same efficacy now than it did 40 minutes earlier. She quickly ate a piece of bread and drank a cup of water and left.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Which is why Gidget drives me nuts. I get it, I'm gone every Sunday usually by 630am for meetings and she has to get 4 girls ready for church alone. But church is at 1030. She knows it will take an hour to get ready. So wake up and start getting ready 15 minutes earlier. It's not that difficult.

Perhaps she wants to be late and it is a deliberate choice.

[happyone]

What can I say - I live 200 yrds away from our chapel and I STILL have to drive to make it in time

[CardiacCoug]

I agree it's lame to mage the deacons go get you the bread. If you miss it, you skip the sacrament that week.

But I think it's funny that people place more blame/shame on people who live close to the church for being consistently late vs those who live farther. The issue is the same, regardless of distance. You have a certain amount of time to get ready and get to church and fail to plan to make that happen. The person who lives 30 minutes from church has no less obligation to plan their time than the person who lives across the street.

I’m just saying that when you live a block from the church there are no traffic issues or weather issues to slow you down, you aren’t hitting every red light or getting unlucky.

And people are literally sitting at home, it’s not like they are getting stuck at work or driving kids around to their crap or all the myriad of things that could make a person late to a weekday evening meeting.

[falafel]

I’m just saying that when you live a block from the church there are no traffic issues or weather issues to slow you down, you aren’t hitting every red light or getting unlucky.

And people are literally sitting at home, it’s not like they are getting stuck at work or driving kids around to their crap or all the myriad of things that could make a person late to a weekday evening meeting.

Right. They are lame.

[swampfrog]

I’m just saying that when you live a block from the church there are no traffic issues or weather issues to slow you down, you aren’t hitting every red light or getting unlucky.

And people are literally sitting at home, it’s not like they are getting stuck at work or driving kids around to their crap or all the myriad of things that could make a person late to a weekday evening meeting.

My in-laws have this trait. No concept whatsoever of the logical string of time-boxed events that must occur prior to a deadline of any kind. I don't believe they can intuitively add of the number of minutes required for each event, subtract it from the deadline and deduce what time they need to start. Even when they do, they often believe there is always time to fit in one more thing. In discussion with my SIL one day, about 3 hours prior to a dinner reservation, I observed the state of readiness and told her, "they are already late, they just don't know it yet". Sure enough, reservation had to be moved 30 minutes.

I don't blame them though, whatever cognitive intuition is needed to comprehend time doesn't exist in their genes. My wife suffers from the same trait.

[creekster]

My in-laws have this trait. No concept whatsoever of the logical string of time-boxed events that must occur prior to a deadline of any kind. I don't believe they can intuitively add of the number of minutes required for each event, subtract it from the deadline and deduce what time they need to start. Even when they do, they often believe there is always time to fit in one more thing. In discussion with my SIL one day, about 3 hours prior to a dinner reservation, I observed the state of readiness and told her, "they are already late, they just don't know it yet". Sure enough, reservation had to be moved 30 minutes.

I don't blame them though, whatever cognitive intuition is needed to comprehend time doesn't exist in their genes. My wife suffers from the same trait.

Do they usually miss flights at the start of a vacation? If not, then they can manage to avoid being late.

[swampfrog]

Do they usually miss flights at the start of a vacation? If not, then they can manage to avoid being late.

Nope, but they are still packing at 4:00 am for a 6:00 am flight. They often sacrifice sleep in order to hit a hard deadline. That's also not the same argument, humans are often capable of overcoming imperfections and weaknesses when the consequences are significant.

[creekster]

Nope, but they are still packing at 4:00 am for a 6:00 am flight. They often sacrifice sleep in order to hit a hard deadline. That's also not the same argument, humans are often capable of overcoming imperfections and weaknesses when the consequences are significant.

Yes, that’s my point. They aren’t incapable, it’s just that most things aren’t important enough for them to care. It is, at base, a type of selfishness and assertion of superiority.