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It was illegal. And it was rightfully illegal. It's not like interracial marriage that way. I do think it brings proper meaning and understanding to how Joseph used the seerstone pre-BOM.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostNot relevant? If that was a reasonable law, why would you not support a law to outlaw each of those things?
My point is that using archaic early 1800's laws as point of argument is dubious. That would be like calling someone's character into question because they engaged in interracial marriage when it was illegal.
Furthermore, there are plenty of perfectly legitimate ways to critique seer stones and money digging. Why resort to legality?
As for the best or most precise adjective to use? I dunno. Sketchy, is maybe a better word? But illegal also seems reasonable.
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Yes! This would be awesome. Take it out on April 6 for a special meeting (available to the common membership via webcam).Originally posted by SeattleUte View Postthey they'd have constructed an edifice, an entire gorgeous building to house it in, and kept it in a holy of holies, except for April 6 of each year.
Maybe get the Apostles to use it to tackle Facsimile #2.
For LDS, this is a legit magic/mystical rock. It deserves some recognition & reverence.
The Hebrews had the Ark with the tablets inside, rocks that had been literally touched by God. Muslims have the Ka'aba with its special meteorite. Catholics have the bones of St. Peter below the basilica. Mormons need to step up their game if they want to roll with the big boys."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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I see you keep avoiding my question. That is fine. I will drop it.Originally posted by jay santos View PostIt was illegal. And it was rightfully illegal. It's not like interracial marriage that way. I do think it brings proper meaning and understanding to how Joseph used the seerstone pre-BOM.
As for the best or most precise adjective to use? I dunno. Sketchy, is maybe a better word? But illegal also seems reasonable."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Mormons have the Joseph Smith death mask, the dried blood on the jailhouse floor (until recently), and those cool authentic clay bricks you can buy when you visit Nauvoo.Originally posted by Solon View PostYes! This would be awesome. Take it out on April 6 for a special meeting (available to the common membership via webcam).
Maybe get the Apostles to use it to tackle Facsimile #2.
For LDS, this is a legit magic/mystical rock. It deserves some recognition & reverence.
The Hebrews had the Ark with the tablets inside, rocks that had been literally touched by God. Muslims have the Ka'aba with its special meteorite. Catholics have the bones of St. Peter below the basilica. Mormons need to step up their game if they want to roll with the big boys.
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How long have DH and you been friends on FB?Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostRight. Not you progmos, because you're seasoned, jaded, tough and nasty about the LDS Church. You can take any LDS absurdity, anything that reveals even a farcical, a humiliating quality to LDS mythology or theology. Nothing phases you.
Personally, I always imagined the seer stone as something like a beautiful crystal that magically lights up when you put it in a dark place, and reveals poetic phrases within its facets. Instead we get this prosaic rock.
Apparently LDS leaders are just as jaded as you all. Because if this seer stone were all its been cracked up to be -- if they really believed that -- they they'd have constructed an edifice, an entire gorgeous building to house it in, and kept it in a holy of holies, except for April 6 of each year.
What a comedy. lol! This thread already deserves five stars.
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Literally laughed out loud. Bravo.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostMormons have the Joseph Smith death mask, the dried blood on the jailhouse floor (until recently), and those cool authentic clay bricks you can buy when you visit Nauvoo.
the Joseph smith astrology cane is kinda cool too, but it's practically hidden in that museum (or was, anyway)."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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More photos. This is the brown bag made by Emma Smith to carry the stone.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Hack.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostMore photos. This is the brown bag made by Emma Smith to carry the stone.
"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Aw crap. Sorry. The thread is moving too quickly.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostHack."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Apparently there is an ongoing debate over whether Captain Kirk et al. used a fazer or a phaser.Originally posted by creekster View PostNot true! We have all gone through many phases. But that never fazes us at all.
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http://wmjasco.blogspot.com/2012/03/...-vs-fazer.html“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by LA Ute View PostApparently there is an ongoing debate over whether Captain Kirk et al. used a fazer or a phaser.
http://wmjasco.blogspot.com/2012/03/...-vs-fazer.html
Frazer? Everyone knows that phaser is short for PHoton mASER.
Someone needs to pick up a Star Trek technical manual."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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i wonder if there is any possibility of showing the actual stone publicly? photos are cool, but it would be better to see the actual stone.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostMore photos. This is the brown bag made by Emma Smith to carry the stone.
"More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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