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  • #76
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Because same sex marriage has destroyed the institution? Is that your point?
    No, because common law marriage has become more acceptable. Lot's of entertainers participate. Divorce has become more acceptable. More children are born out of wedlock than ever.

    The acceptance of same sex marriage is a result of marriage already becoming less of a big deal.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      Marriage has become nothing more than a legal contract. It is like being issued a drivers permit. With the piece of paper you have legal rights a single person may not have.
      "Has become"? That's what it's always been. A few hundred years ago, you would just go down to the church and tell them you got married. Churches performing marriage ceremonies is a relatively recent occurrence.

      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      No, because common law marriage has become more acceptable. Lot's of entertainers participate. Divorce has become more acceptable. More children are born out of wedlock than ever.

      The acceptance of same sex marriage is a result of marriage already becoming less of a big deal.
      Actually, common law marriage has become less acceptable. In ancient Greece and Rome, medieval Europe, even colonial America, it was quite common, if not the most common or only method of becoming married.
      If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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      • #78
        This seems to fit here: http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/273514...e-mormons-want

        1. Increase gender equality

        2. Apologize for the racist past and mistreatment of LGBT members

        3. Accept married gay couples at all levels

        4. Permit members to openly question the authority, teachings and decisions of LDS Church leadership

        5. Provide financial transparency in the use of tithes

        6. Address the mistakes of polygamy and de-canonize Doctrine & Covenants 132

        7. Teach the truth and troubling facts of church history (specifically surrounding Joseph Smith)

        8. Speak openly of Heavenly Mother

        9. Use tithes and offerings more to help the poor and needy and less on capital projects (temples, churches, commercial buildings, etc.)

        10. Stop excommunicating people for openly questioning or expressing doubts
        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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        • #79
          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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          • #80
            After experiencing my own faith crisis in 2014, I discovered various online forums where progressive Mormons discuss LDS Church issues. These forums provide a space where progressive Mormons can openly express doubt, desires for change and issues without the fear of judgment or LDS Church discipline. In these forums, I have noticed that several recurring themes continue to surface. As such, I recently asked in several forums what changes progressive Mormons would want to see in the LDS Church. I obtained hundreds of responses.
            Can someone link me to this post?
            I told him he was a goddamn Nazi Stormtrooper.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Dwight Schr-ute View Post
              Can someone link me to this post?
              http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/273514...e-mormons-want
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden

              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                This seems to fit here: http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/273514...e-mormons-want
                lol, they forgot a two-hour block and caffeinated soft drinks at BYU.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • #83
                  I dont care about #8
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    I dont care about #8
                    Progmo's are generally against things that make the church look crazy, so they should drop #8.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                      lol, they forgot a two-hour block and caffeinated soft drinks at BYU.
                      They would certainly keep more people with a two hour block than they would decanonizing 132.
                      "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                      Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                      • #86
                        I also want a clear and concise policy that condemns to hell members that do not support BYU athletics.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          I also want a clear and concise policy that condemns to hell members that do not support BYU athletics.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            I also want a clear and concise policy that condemns to hell members that do not support BYU athletics.
                            That doesn't sound very progressive.
                            "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                            Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              I also want a clear and concise policy that condemns to hell members that do not support BYU athletics.
                              I would show the uplifted hand for my sustaining vote.

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                              • #90
                                So this list was the top 10 out of a tidal wave of responses, eh? If #8 was more mentions of Heavenly Mother, I'm guessing they only got ten responses in all. Maybe even just nine, since #4 and #10 are the same thing.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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