2015 April Conference Thread

[Moliere]

Whoa....UD is back

[Dwight Schr-ute]

2015 April Conference Thread

Yikes. This picture in the DNews is pretty rough. Even Eyring is looking abused. And these are the guys that could do their duty.



http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...m.facebook.com

[Bruiserstone]

Yikes. This picture in the DNews is pretty rough. Even Eyring is looking abused. And these are the guys that could do their duty.



http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...m.facebook.com

I saw a comment where the someone said Monson looked like the dude from Poltergeist II

[DrumNFeather]

Whoa....UD is back

Out of the ditch!

[Copelius]

Interlude built on four/five note phrase. First verse, unison. Repeat interlude. Second verse, women. Third verse, men. Awkward key change thrown in somewhere for good measure. Fourth verse, harmony-- sometimes, if you're lucky, a few bars of a'cappella-- with hefty underlying modulation. Repeat interlude. Repeat single refrain. One last interlude, and end with a gratuitous "Amen."

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is every single Mack Wilburg arrangement ever written.

The choir is capable of so much more than this formulaic tripe. He's been given access to one of the most impressive musical instruments in the world, and he makes them sing milquetoast renditions any choir cobbled together from the flotsam and jetsam of slc-area YSAs can pull off. You might as well be playing chopsticks on the tabernacle organ.

And worse yet, he uses Motab to give these arrangements an authoritative imprimatur. No doubt, he studiously avoids giving the choir anything interesting to do lest he scare away ward choir directors shopping at Deseret book to find a nice number for next Sunday's program-- good saints, with good intentions and the ward budget at their disposal. Setting himself up as a light for gain and praise of others-- there's a word for that, as I recall.

He must be stopped.

I have thought a lot about these comments in the past few months as I officially was welcomed into the ranks of the choir. I don't know your musical background but your comments make me wonder how much of the choir, or other Mack arrangements performed by other choirs, you listen to aside from conference. I concur with statements by SIL de PAC that Mack may be encouraged to back off a bit on some of the GC music as opposed to the rest of the repertoire (I have no inside knowledge, just based on the repertoire for GC vs the regular repertoire).

I have sung Mack arrangements in every choir to which I have belonged since high school (there have been a few). He was well known and published in the choral community since before he was 30 and it wasn't with Jackman but Oxford Press. There has to be something there for that to happen.

With regard to the final allegation, if you will look to page 2 of the May Ensign, you will note that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sang exactly ONE arrangement of Mack's that has been published. Of the remaining 13 songs sung by the Choir he arranged only 3, and those arrangements are only available to the choir (meaning the choir as a whole not individual members, they are very strict about that). Besides, I think he makes more from the aforementioned Oxford publications than those with Jackman.

I am sure many will wonder why I waited so long to post this response, and I wonder myself if it would not be better left alone, but I thought of it again as the first conference music was handed out last week and I thought the perspective of a few months of actual service time could be interesting to some, a couple, one.

[Bo Diddley]

I have thought a lot about these comments in the past few months as I officially was welcomed into the ranks of the choir. I don't know your musical background but your comments make me wonder how much of the choir, or other Mack arrangements performed by other choirs, you listen to aside from conference. I concur with statements by SIL de PAC that Mack may be encouraged to back off a bit on some of the GC music as opposed to the rest of the repertoire (I have no inside knowledge, just based on the repertoire for GC vs the regular repertoire).

I have sung Mack arrangements in every choir to which I have belonged since high school (there have been a few). He was well known and published in the choral community since before he was 30 and it wasn't with Jackman but Oxford Press. There has to be something there for that to happen.

With regard to the final allegation, if you will look to page 2 of the May Ensign, you will note that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sang exactly ONE arrangement of Mack's that has been published. Of the remaining 13 songs sung by the Choir he arranged only 3, and those arrangements are only available to the choir (meaning the choir as a whole not individual members, they are very strict about that). Besides, I think he makes more from the aforementioned Oxford publications than those with Jackman.

I am sure many will wonder why I waited so long to post this response, and I wonder myself if it would not be better left alone, but I thought of it again as the first conference music was handed out last week and I thought the perspective of a few months of actual service time could be interesting to some, a couple, one.

I would not be surprised to find that he figured out on his own the appropriate selection of music for GC.

I wonder how this would play out in a church court. Would this testimony be enough to overcome AA's? One day, will we wake up to find that Mack got the ex?

[Copelius]

I would not be surprised to find that he figured out on his own the appropriate selection of music for GC.

I wonder how this would play out in a church court. Would this testimony be enough to overcome AA's? One day, will we wake up to find that Mack got the ex?

I am sure he is given a lot of leeway, because he is smart enough to know what is appropriate, but I also know he's received specific requests as well.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Copelius, don't be intimidated by AA. He is perfectly harmless.

[All-American]

Copelius, don't be intimidated by AA. He is perfectly harmless.

Unlike Mack, who has done more harm to the church than every apostate put together. They can only resist from without. He corrupts from within.

[All-American]

I have thought a lot about these comments in the past few months as I officially was welcomed into the ranks of the choir. I don't know your musical background but your comments make me wonder how much of the choir, or other Mack arrangements performed by other choirs, you listen to aside from conference. I concur with statements by SIL de PAC that Mack may be encouraged to back off a bit on some of the GC music as opposed to the rest of the repertoire (I have no inside knowledge, just based on the repertoire for GC vs the regular repertoire).

I have sung Mack arrangements in every choir to which I have belonged since high school (there have been a few). He was well known and published in the choral community since before he was 30 and it wasn't with Jackman but Oxford Press. There has to be something there for that to happen.

With regard to the final allegation, if you will look to page 2 of the May Ensign, you will note that the Mormon Tabernacle Choir sang exactly ONE arrangement of Mack's that has been published. Of the remaining 13 songs sung by the Choir he arranged only 3, and those arrangements are only available to the choir (meaning the choir as a whole not individual members, they are very strict about that). Besides, I think he makes more from the aforementioned Oxford publications than those with Jackman.

I am sure many will wonder why I waited so long to post this response, and I wonder myself if it would not be better left alone, but I thought of it again as the first conference music was handed out last week and I thought the perspective of a few months of actual service time could be interesting to some, a couple, one.

Congratulations on your membership and participation in one of the world's foremost musical groups. I sincerely hope you do not find the gross underutilization of your God-given talents to be a frustrating experience.

[smokymountainrain]

Unlike Mack, who has done more harm to the church than every apostate put together. They can only resist from without. He corrupts from within.

[Copelius]

Congratulations on your membership and participation in one of the world's foremost musical groups. I sincerely hope you do not find the gross underutilization of your God-given talents to be a frustrating experience.

The only frustration that occurs is that I am not a soloist every week. But my wife tells me that the other 360 have the same frustration. Something about singers' egos. :surprise2:

[cougjunkie]

What's the October surprise this year? Is this when Richard G. Formally resigns? Anyone heard from nik? He is probably super busy podcasting.

[Lost Student]

What's the October surprise this year? Is this when Richard G. Formally resigns? Anyone heard from nik? He is probably super busy podcasting.

Whatever it is, I can tell you it's going to be a PR disaster/nightmare for the church. (Once the mainstream media runs with it, of course!)

Only three weeks 'till we find out!

[HBCoug]

What's the October surprise this year? Is this when Richard G. Formally resigns? Anyone heard from nik? He is probably super busy podcasting.

Sheri Dew is really a dude (sources say), and will start going by "Sheri Dewd."