Classic ProgMo Stereotypes

[old_gregg]

Where do people get these ideas about Grace? Dude single and a waiter in downtown Seattle where he rides a 10 speed to work.

i thought he was jonny greenwood's guitar tech/"masseur"?

[MarkGrace]

Where do people get these ideas about Grace? Dude is single and a waiter in downtown Seattle where he rides a 10 speed to work.

lol! I'm building an awesome profile on this board. Single ginger Poly resembling Blake Griffin that's a waiter/gourmet food sales rep/wine distributor/works for Ikea corporate/Jonny Greenwood guitar tech (awesome!) and rides his ten speed to work. Oh yeah, also a less active Mo. Unfortunately that's way more interesting than my real profile. However, lovable and awesome I will totally admit to being IRL as well.

[MarkGrace]

wait, MG is in Seattle? Wow, never knew that.

You kid because some seem so surprised by facts that are well-known about me, but Ox seriously asked if I lived in Seattle or Utah not that long ago.

[Solon]

i thought he was jonny greenwood's guitar tech/"masseur"?

Nah, he's a rocker in the band Citizen Dick.

[MarkGrace]

Grace is a lawyer?

Aren't we all on the internet?

[MarkGrace]

Nah, he's a rocker in the band Citizen Dick.

haha. I haven't seen that movie in forever. :rockon2:

[TripletDaddy]

lol! I'm building an awesome profile on this board. Single ginger Poly resembling Blake Griffin Jason Newsted that's a waiter/gourmet food sales rep/wine distributor/works for Ikea corporate/Jonny Greenwood guitar tech (awesome!) and rides his ten speed to work. Oh yeah, also a less active Mo. Unfortunately that's way more interesting than my real profile. However, lovable and awesome I will totally admit to being IRL as well.

:rockon2:

[MarkGrace]

:rockon2:

That too! :rockon2:

[Solon]

John A. Widtsoe, "What is a Liberal Religion?" in The Improvement Era, vol 44, no. 10 (Oct. 1941), page 609 (pg. 34 of the .pdf).

The self-called liberal is usually one who has broken with the fundamental principles or guiding philosophy of the group to which he belongs. He is an unbeliever. He claims membership in an organization but does not believe in its basic concepts; and sets out to reform it by changing its foundations. He is forever entangling his unbelief with his membership. He wants the protection of the organization, therefore refuses to admit frankly that he rejects the fundamental beliefs of the cause and seeks truth elsewhere. It is a species of cowardice. In the United States, communists, nazis, or fascists would probably insist that they are liberals. In a church, the liberal refuses to accept the doctrine of the church or the way of life that it enjoins upon its members. It is an undeserved compliment to designate such men by the noble word liberal; they are apostates from a cause, engaged in building their own cause under false colors, whether in the state or the church. They are often without basic convictions, rudderless mariners, victims of every passing wave. Such men, whatever they may call themselves, are dangerous to human happiness. Certainly, they are not entitled to be called liberals within the organization of which they are members. Their chief pastime is to sow the seeds of anarchy in the hearts of others.

It is folly to speak of a liberal religion, if that religion claims that it rests upon unchanging truth.

https://archive.org/stream/improvementera4410unse#page/n33/mode/2up

ProgMos John A. Widtsoe

[Moliere]

ProgMos John A. Widtsoe

John A. was not the prophet when he said that, and he was never the prophet.....so his words cannot be interpreted as official church doctrine :P

[wally]

John A. was not the prophet when he said that, and he was never the prophet.....so his words cannot be interpreted as official church doctrine :P

So that was just, like, his opinion, man?

[Blueintheface]

48. Skypes/Facetimes his/her HT/VT families.
49. During EQP/HPGL meetings uses phrases such as "table that idea" and "circle back to that" while writing furiously with his stylus on his circa 2003 Blackberry.
50. Takes the deacon's quorum sledding through the parking lot on a tow rope from the back of his truck during Sunday priesthood class.
51. Names all 3 of his sons Dieter.

[YOhio]

48. Skypes/Facetimes his/her HT/VT families.
49. During EQP/HPGL meetings uses phrases such as "table that idea" and "circle back to that" while writing furiously with his stylus on his circa 2003 Blackberry.
50. Takes the deacon's quorum sledding through the parking lot on a tow rope from the back of his truck during Sunday priesthood class.
51. Names all 3 of his sons Dieter.

Those are easily the worst contributions this thread has seen.

[Blueintheface]

Those are easily the worst contributions this thread has seen.

Thank you, Jiminy Cricket.

[Solon]

This reads like something out of The Onion:

MORMON INTELLECTUALS ACCUSED OF THINKING FOR THEMSELVES!

http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/1872447-155/byu-prof-fears-mormon-scholars-are

Such LDS progressives, he [byu prof Ralph Hancock] says, feel free to disagree with Mormon officials on issues such as same-sex marriage, the central role of the family in LDS theology and women’s ordination to the faith’s all-male priesthood.

And here is Hancock’s deepest concern: The "dominant orientation" of the so-called bloggernacle — the universe of Mormon blogs — "assumes the moral superiority of intellectuals to church authorities."


In this world, personal conscience trumps pious pronouncements

The new Meridian EXPANDS site (mentioned in the article as a counter-punch to these uppity progmos) probably deserves its own thread.
I couldn't find a thread on retrenchment.

http://ldsmag.com/meridian-expands-to-engage-scholars-and-thinkers-on-critical-cultural-and-intellectual-issues/