2014 April General Conference Thread

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

When ldc and I got in the rental car in Atlanta the XM radio was set to BYU Radio. I'm counting that as my missionary moment.

[Moliere]

Thought I'd give a quick rundown of my fav talks from this conference:

#1 - Monson (Sun Morning) - Spoke about how the two great commandments are inseparable and how loving our neighbor is the way to love God. I liked this mostly because it broke away from the typical correlated message that the way to love God is to keep his commandments (tithing, WoW, etc.). Very cool to see an emphasis on love, especially in the cyber-ran world we live in today.

#2 - Zwick (Sat Afternoon) - There were several talks about being cordial in communication, which is obviously aimed at online feuds over things like marriage equality, ordain women, etc. Zwick I think hit a great balance of not conceding doctrine while promoting love. He used the example of a feud in his marriage where both of them were essentially right. Seems similar to what happens oftentimes on FB and on this board, however we could all do better to acknowledge that while we may be right, the other person could also be right but just from a different perspective. I liked the admonition for us to try to better understand a person's position as a way to be more cordial.

#3 - Uchtdorf (Sun Morning) - As always he delivers, in fact we may want to start calling him the Mailman. Gratitude, real gratitude, is generally lost on middle class Americans/Europeans so it's always nice for a reminder. He took it a bit farther and said we should be grateful in our circumstances, whatever they may be, and I'd be lying if I didn't say I thought of some on this board and some in my ward that might be struggling through things in their lives right now.

#4 - Any talk that referenced sports - I'm a sucker for cool sports stories and the Pikus-Pace story is just awesome. I'm glad it was referenced in conference. It's just cool that a woman in the church had the full support of her family to pursue her dreams and she totally delivered when it mattered. I love it because I have daughters and we all watched her win the silver medal. Very cool role model of a strong woman who also lives good values.

The music really was superb. One rendition (I think it was Let Us All Press On) really got to me. Plus having the choir sing A Child's Pray is always a tear jerker for me. I can't comment on anything in the Sun Afternoon session as I slept through it and thankfully MJ didn't wake me up this time (I think she slept through it as well).

[byu71]

I would love to challenge an apostle to a public, televised debate. That would be the chance of a lifetime!

I don't know how well they are trained to deal with trolls. They might actually think you are serious.

[Pelado]

Thought I'd give a quick rundown of my fav talks from this conference:

#1 - Monson (Sun Morning) - Spoke about how the two great commandments are inseparable and how loving our neighbor is the way to love God. I liked this mostly because it broke away from the typical correlated message that the way to love God is to keep his commandments (tithing, WoW, etc.). Very cool to see an emphasis on love, especially in the cyber-ran world we live in today.

#2 - Zwick (Sat Afternoon) - There were several talks about being cordial in communication, which is obviously aimed at online feuds over things like marriage equality, ordain women, etc. Zwick I think hit a great balance of not conceding doctrine while promoting love. He used the example of a feud in his marriage where both of them were essentially right. Seems similar to what happens oftentimes on FB and on this board, however we could all do better to acknowledge that while we may be right, the other person could also be right but just from a different perspective. I liked the admonition for us to try to better understand a person's position as a way to be more cordial.

#3 - Uchtdorf (Sun Morning) - As always he delivers, in fact we may want to start calling him the Mailman. Gratitude, real gratitude, is generally lost on middle class Americans/Europeans so it's always nice for a reminder. He took it a bit farther and said we should be grateful in our circumstances, whatever they may be, and I'd be lying if I didn't say I thought of some on this board and some in my ward that might be struggling through things in their lives right now.

#4 - Any talk that referenced sports - I'm a sucker for cool sports stories and the Pikus-Pace story is just awesome. I'm glad it was referenced in conference. It's just cool that a woman in the church had the full support of her family to pursue her dreams and she totally delivered when it mattered. I love it because I have daughters and we all watched her win the silver medal. Very cool role model of a strong woman who also lives good values.

The music really was superb. One rendition (I think it was Let Us All Press On) really got to me. Plus having the choir sing A Child's Pray is always a tear jerker for me. I can't comment on anything in the Sun Afternoon session as I slept through it and thankfully MJ didn't wake me up this time (I think she slept through it as well).

Same here. I actually hit rewind so I could hear Let Us All Press On again.

[Blueintheface]

Monsons talk was superb

This is mainly for my CS home teacher, MG:

My inactive brother came over yesterday and after finding my shoes in the bedroom I returned to the family room to find him watching GC just as PM was taking the pulpit (I had left it on golf - Houston Open - and was shocked to see that he had sought out GC). I joined him on the couch and a few minutes later we realized we both had liked the simple nature of the talk.

We then watched the Houston Open and reaffirmed our testimonies of the truthfulness of the golf gospel.

[MarkGrace]

This is mainly for my CS home teacher, MG:

My inactive brother came over yesterday and after finding my shoes in the bedroom I returned to the family room to find him watching GC just as PM was taking the pulpit (I had left it on golf - Houston Open - and was shocked to see that he had sought out GC). I joined him on the couch and a few minutes later we realized we both had liked the simple nature of the talk.

We then watched the Houston Open and reaffirmed our testimonies of the truthfulness of the golf gospel.

:rockon2:

I didn't watch a single minute of GC, but I'm still going to get you back to church!

[Uncle Ted]

Who here is excited for a little Bednar?

So is JC's birthday on April 6th like Elder Bednar said?

D&C 20:1 and Talmage say his birthday is April 6, 1 B.C. But research says otherwise...

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...th.html?pg=all

Jeffrey R. Chadwick, an associate professor of church history and doctrine at BYU, published an article in the latest issue of BYU Studies on "Dating the Birth of Jesus Christ" that challenges the popular but not universal Mormon dating of Jesus' birth to April 6.


And he is in good company.


In 1954, President J. Reuben Clark Jr., a counselor in the First Presidency of the LDS Church, wrote that Christ's birth was in December of 5 B.C. or early 4 B.C.


In 1979, Elder Bruce R. McConkie, also an apostle, favored December 5 B.C. as well as alternative dates in 4 B.C.
[…]
Steven C. Harper, a BYU assistant professor of church history and a volume editor of the Joseph Smith Papers, said in a phone interview that some people, including Elder Talmage, have read this verse as if it is the Lord speaking and revealing precisely that Christ was born 1,830 years before that day and that the revelation was given on April 6, 1830.


The recent discovery of the Book of Commandments and Revelations manuscript of D&C 20, however, showed that the verse was actually an introductory head note written by early church historian and scribe John Whitmer — something he did for many of the revelations, Harper said. "So those are separate from the texts that Joseph produces by revelation."
[…]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...th.html?pg=all

I wonder if that part will be edited out of Elder Bednar's talk.

[pellegrino]

Same here. I actually hit rewind so I could hear Let Us All Press On again.

any video of this? Which session? I was unable to watch this weekend and IIRC they don't include the musical numbers in the streaming online.

[Blueintheface]

:rockon2:

I didn't watch a single minute of GC, but I'm still going to get you back to church!

I'm beginning to wonder what exactly makes you an active Mo Mo.

[smokymountainrain]

I'm beginning to wonder what exactly makes you an active Mo Mo.

He's sitting at about 20 to 1 at this point.

[Sullyute]

So is JC's birthday on April 6th like Elder Bednar said?

D&C 20:1 and Talmage say his birthday is April 6, 1 B.C. But research says otherwise...

When I heard Bednar say that, I thought, "I guess the correlation department did a bad job on vetting that talk." I wonder if the apostles can just tell the Correlation Dept to pound sand if they want to spout incorrect info.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You godless apostates keep your filthy mitts off of Gracie! He is ours.

[YOhio]

You godless apostates keep your filthy mitts off of Gracie! He is ours.

Let's hope he never becomes the ward's most popular Gospel Doctrine teacher lest he go the way of nik and bitf.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Let's hope he never becomes the ward's most popular Gospel Doctrine teacher lest he go the way of nik and bitf.

Indeed. Not sure Grace even attends SS, so I think we are safe.

[MarkGrace]

I'm beginning to wonder what exactly makes you an active Mo Mo.

Regular church attendance.