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  • Originally posted by Viking View Post
    Porn and whoring are very close: you normally pay (not always w porn) for the convenience of not being nagged after the deed is done.

    I know a couple of people who have struggled with porn addictions. I know a couple of people who have struggled with drug addictions; same with alcohol. I consider none of them as dangerous or problematic.

    I don't like porn simply because it's not really my thing. Sitting around watching nasty, disease-ridden individuals perform contrived sex acts is pretty stupid, in my opinion.
    This is a pathetic post. Your concept of sexuality is obviously warped to an extreme. People aren't "addicted" to porn. They're "addicted" to sex. If a partner isn't present, the biological urge is still present. Therefore, people masturbate. Porn makes masturbation more fun. Therefore, people view porn. Calling porn an addiction isn't any different from calling food an addiction. Sure, there are rare cases of extreme overeaters and morbidly obese folk, and maybe addiction could be used under specific circumstances, but just as unhealthy are extremists like you. You are a sexual anorexic.

    Also, your characterization of what porn is is completely retarded.

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    • Originally posted by Viking View Post
      I don't like porn simply because it's not really my thing. Sitting around watching nasty, disease-ridden individuals perform contrived sex acts is pretty stupid, in my opinion.

      Man, when you say it like that, it sounds totally hott!

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      • Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
        I'm not sure the line is so easily drawn. There are plenty of people out there who, for reasons ranging from abuse to simple prudishness, feel really uncomfortable about sex. There are others who feel completely comfortable with swinging. Now maybe we just need to butt out of all of this, but I kinda don't think you'd advocate that.

        This brings up a broader question of differentiating between leaving your comfort zone and actually leaving the Holy Ghost. I don't have this distinction down, and based on what I've observed in others, I'm not convinced they do either.
        I don't necessarily disagree with you. My main point is that it seems to me (just me) that asking someone to tell you where to draw the line is asking the wrong question. I am sure you and I could come up with some things that are clearly appropriate and others that are clearly inappropriate. Doing much more than drawing that line seems to me an impossible task.
        Last edited by LA Ute; 11-15-2009, 02:06 PM.
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        • edit: nevermind.
          Last edited by TheAzzuri; 11-16-2009, 01:06 PM.

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          • Bump. President Monson's punography reference at the 1-hour 41 minute mark of last night's Priesthood session set a new record for time of first punography reference in a priesthood session. That said, he ruined what might have been our best chance, since the internet's invention, at hearing an entire priesthood session without a single punography reference.
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            • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
              Bump. President Monson's punography reference at the 1-hour 41 minute mark of last night's Priesthood session set a new record for time of first punography reference in a priesthood session. That said, he ruined what might have been our best chance, since the internet's invention, at hearing an entire priesthood session without a single punography reference.
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              • You wouldn't believe the underwear ads in Costa Rica, even from places like Walmart.
                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                  You wouldn't believe the underwear ads in Costa Rica, even from places like Walmart.
                  On a somewhat related note, I was suprised that the TV, billboard and bus stop ads in Spain were much tamer than they were 15 years ago.

                  Back then, it wasn't uncommon to see bare breasts in any of those media. It was not nearly as prevalent when I was there a couple of years ago. Seems like things have actually gotten a bit more modest there.

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                  • Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                    You wouldn't believe the underwear ads in Costa Rica, even from places like Walmart.
                    Lots of Weiners?

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                    • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                      Bump. President Monson's punography reference at the 1-hour 41 minute mark of last night's Priesthood session set a new record for time of first punography reference in a priesthood session. That said, he ruined what might have been our best chance, since the internet's invention, at hearing an entire priesthood session without a single punography reference.
                      I have a "friend" who, IMO, is a non-believer, but keeps up appearances for his wife, and he also happens to be EQP. He must be trying to mask his unbelief because he's a real hardliner on HT, quality of EQP lessons, etc. He said he was surprised at how little punography was discussed last conference, so the week after he gave a special EQ lesson on punography. He said, "I said three times in a row, "You might as well slap your wife in the face!""

                      I think someone has a porn problem.
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                      • Originally posted by RedSox View Post
                        I have a "friend" who, IMO, is a non-believer, but keeps up appearances for his wife, and he also happens to be EQP. He must be trying to mask his unbelief because he's a real hardliner on HT, quality of EQP lessons, etc. He said he was surprised at how little punography was discussed last conference, so the week after he gave a special EQ lesson on punography. He said, "I said three times in a row, "You might as well slap your wife in the face!""

                        I think someone has a porn problem.
                        I think I´d get it in writing beforehand that she´s into that sort of thing.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • I attended stake leadership training tonight. We were "encouraged" very heavily to attend. As in a half-dozen email reminders over the last week, multiple announcements at church, and a few text reminders as well. We were told we would be receiving "calling-specific" training, and this was unlike any other training we had been to in the past.

                          Well, it was definitely unlike any other "training" I had been to in the past. After an opening hymn and prayer, the SP showed us this clip:


                          [YOUTUBE]gWQ5dPeixdw[/YOUTUBE]

                          After which he spoke for about 35 minutes on the evils of punography and its effects on both men and young men alike. I audibly guffawed at the side-by-side shot of the guy walking alone vs. movie time with his family.

                          The stake technology coordinator then fumbled his way through a presentation about LDS.org and the calendaring features, reminding us at least 20 times that he didn't have time to show us everything, so we should get online and explore it ourselves. He would have been able to show us a lot more if he's just shown us stuff instead of telling us how much he couldn't show us.

                          Then the first counselor spoke for about 10 mins on safety in our activities, and walked everyone, verbatim, through a power-point slide from the BSA on tour permit applications. It was very clinical, corporate, and fell just short of saying "if you don't fill these forms out properly, the Church is going to have to fork over some dough when someone gets hurt, gosh darnit". He did intimate that there could be some personal liability for leaders who don't take proper precautions in filling out the required forms. That was a nice touch.

                          Finally, the 2nd councilor gave a talk about getting closer to God. Sadly, I was so turned off by the previous 45 mins that I tuned out what was probably the most beneficial part of the "training".

                          I really like our SP, but I really wish I could have that hour and fifteen of my life back.

                          Now time to pack. Tomorrow is the first of 4 days with farting boys in the wilderness!
                          Last edited by Donuthole; 07-19-2011, 11:33 PM.
                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                          • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

                            After which he spoke for about 35 minutes on the evils of punography
                            On the local news last week they were interviewing an evangelical minister who says that it's "almost criminal" that churches never talk about the pornography problem in the U.S.

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                            • Originally posted by Babs View Post
                              On the local news last week they were interviewing an evangelical minister who says that it's "almost criminal" that churches never talk about the pornography problem in the U.S.
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                              • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                                I attended stake leadership training tonight. We were "encouraged" very heavily to attend. As in a half-dozen email reminders over the last week, multiple announcements at church, and a few text reminders as well. We were told we would be receiving "calling-specific" training, and this was unlike any other training we had been to in the past.

                                Well, it was definitely unlike any other "training" I had been to in the past. After an opening hymn and prayer, the SP showed us this clip:


                                [YOUTUBE]gWQ5dPeixdw[/YOUTUBE]

                                After which he spoke for about 35 minutes on the evils of punography and its effects on both men and young men alike. I audibly guffawed at the side-by-side shot of the guy walking alone vs. movie time with his family.

                                The stake technology coordinator then fumbled his way through a presentation about LDS.org and the calendaring features, reminding us at least 20 times that he didn't have time to show us everything, so we should get online and explore it ourselves. He would have been able to show us a lot more if he's just shown us stuff instead of telling us how much he couldn't show us.

                                Then the first counselor spoke for about 10 mins on safety in our activities, and walked everyone, verbatim, through a power-point slide from the BSA on tour permit applications. It was very clinical, corporate, and fell just short of saying "if you don't fill these forms out properly, the Church is going to have to fork over some dough when someone gets hurt, gosh darnit". He did intimate that there could be some personal liability for leaders who don't take proper precautions in filling out the required forms. That was a nice touch.

                                Finally, the 2nd councilor gave a talk about getting closer to God. Sadly, I was so turned off by the previous 45 mins that I tuned out what was probably the most beneficial part of the "training".

                                I really like our SP, but I really wish I could have that hour and fifteen of my life back.

                                Now time to pack. Tomorrow is the first of 4 days with farting boys in the wilderness!
                                That sounds like almost every stake training that I've been to, except mine seem to last 2 hours. Consider yourself lucky.
                                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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