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[RobinFinderson]

Four years ago I wrote a blog post about LDS sex toy parties. I won't repost the content here, out of respect for the sensitivities of some readers. You can examine the post if you wish:

http://wuapinmon.blogspot.com/2005/0...l-orgasms.html

What gets me is that I get a comment today that is some holy-rolling condemnation-spewing really-really-really-hyper-descriptive critique of "Spirit-feeling" priesthood holders and what they should and should not do in the bedroom with 'proxy objects.'

The word "abomination" was used and it wasn't tongue-in-cheek.

LDS sex toy parties???!! For crying out loud, wuap, this is the purnography thread. Stay on topic!

[wuapinmon]

LDS sex toy parties???!! For crying out loud, wuap, this is the purnography thread. Stay on topic!

Dude, Donuthole needs this.

[Commando]

wow. there were some awesome turns of phrase in that post-- I must admit. " I don't want the taint of pornography on me"

oh and how about that response? Waxing a little too eloquently about pumping husbands to climax to not be TIC. funny stuff.

[wuapinmon]

wow. there were some awesome turns of phrase in that post-- I must admit. " I don't want the taint of pornography on me"

oh and how about that response? Waxing a little too eloquently about pumping husbands to climax to not be TIC. funny stuff.

I went and looked at the IP address, it's from Intel Corporation in Oregon....and they came from a google search of "LDS sex toy parties."

I think it was totally for real. I get drive-bys like that on the blog all the time.

[RobinFinderson]

Dude, Donuthole needs this.

Exactly. Do you really think folks are going to discuss LDS sex toy parties?

Here is something that gets about as close to your sex toy idea as I'd bet people here are willing to get:

I had an Elders' Q. president whose wife told Faith that she had purchased The Joy of Sex. This is an example of a book that was clearly written as instruction, vs. pornography, which may be instructional, but serves a primary purpose of turning people on. The current edition of TJOS has photos of couples demonstrating sexual positions, and therefore might be considered 'pornographic' by the standards of some people here. Furthermore, the wife of EQP told Faith that it was her goal to attempt EVERY heterosexual couples' position in the book, in an attempt to keep things fresh and interesting. When asked about some of the 'rougher' techniques that such a thorough exploration of the text might involve, she responded (to the best of my recollection), "Bodies are pretty resilient to all of this stuff. People have been doing it for centuries. If we don't like something, we won't do it again, but how else would we know unless we tried?"

So, does The Joy of Sex contain pornography?

Does this good sister's attitude reflect the best of LDS pioneer spirit, the worst of LDS female dominion, or something else (you describe)?

Is it appropriate to expand one's bedroom play list with outside help?

[wuapinmon]

Exactly. Do you really think folks are going to discuss LDS sex toy parties?

Here is something that gets about as close to your sex toy idea as I'd bet people here are willing to get:

I had an Elders' Q. president whose wife told Faith that she had purchased The Joy of Sex. This is an example of a book that was clearly written as instruction, vs. pornography, which may be instructional, but serves a primary purpose of turning people on. The current edition of TJOS has photos of couples demonstrating sexual positions, and therefore might be considered 'pornographic' by the standards of some people here. Furthermore, the wife of EQP told Faith that it was her goal to attempt EVERY heterosexual couples' position in the book, in an attempt to keep things fresh and interesting. When asked about some of the 'rougher' techniques that such a thorough exploration of the text might involve, she responded (to the best of my recollection), "Bodies are pretty resilient to all of this stuff. People have been doing it for centuries. If we don't like something, we won't do it again, but how else would we know unless we tried?"

So, does The Joy of Sex contain pornography?

Does this good sister's attitude reflect the best of LDS pioneer spirit, the worst of LDS female dominion, or something else (you describe)?

Is it appropriate to expand one's bedroom play list with outside help?

But, I wasn't really trying to get conversation going about it....truly. I was just showing an attitude about sex that I know is common among many Mormons I know personally, and I linked it to my blog. I don't want a laundry-list of stuff, or anything of the sort, my post just talks about porn and sex toys and Amazon.com.......not their usage. The person's comment was hyper-descriptive and reads a like a check-off sheet of things done or left wanting. I have no problem with sex toys, as long as both parties are ok with it. I was just talking about how Amazon.com's selling of them, and the LDS sex toy parties that my wife's sibling attended, are removing sex toys from their association with the more prurient side of porn culture, and yet mainstreaming part of it at the same time.

As far as TJOS is concerned. I'd say that a copy purchased with the knowledge of both for their mutual benefit, without the intention of using it for the purpose of erotica, but rather as a how-to guide, would be ok. If the book's purchase or use is to prime the pump, that's probably not the best use.

[myboynoah]

I love you man, but as to that 10%, your outlook is so deeply ingrained you want to meddle with and brow beat control and guilt trip them, I know. Resist the urge. It's not righteous.

Backatcha.

I guess that's why your conclusion hurts, it really hurts.

You haven't been paying attention.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

But, I wasn't really trying to get conversation going about it....truly. I was just showing an attitude about sex that I know is common among many Mormons I know personally, and I linked it to my blog. I don't want a laundry-list of stuff, or anything of the sort, my post just talks about porn and sex toys and Amazon.com.......not their usage. The person's comment was hyper-descriptive and reads a like a check-off sheet of things done or left wanting. I have no problem with sex toys, as long as both parties are ok with it. I was just talking about how Amazon.com's selling of them, and the LDS sex toy parties that my wife's sibling attended, are removing sex toys from their association with the more prurient side of porn culture, and yet mainstreaming part of it at the same time.

As far as TJOS is concerned. I'd say that a copy purchased with the knowledge of both for their mutual benefit, without the intention of using it for the purpose of erotica, but rather as a how-to guide, would be ok. If the book's purchase or use is to prime the pump, that's probably not the best use.

When I was 14 or so my friend found a TJOS book in his parents' stuff. I thought it was funny that the subjects of the drawings were a couple of hippies.

[wuapinmon]

Bump.

[falafel]

Bump.

C'mon, Donut doesn't deserve false post counts in his signature thread. He deserves a thread that can make it on its own!

[Jarid in Cedar]

Bump.

Dammit Wuap!

[wuapinmon]

Dammit Wuap!

I've gotta give SG something else to riff about. And, we never really tackled the issues of lighting, soundtrack, and the expansion of "ADULT" bookstores into the suburbs.

[RobinFinderson]

I have a legit question that just might give this thread some legs again. What is pornography? When does the depiction of human sexuality cross the line and become something that most of you consider to be verboten and harmful?

I ask in all sincerity. We have many fans of The Wire, True Blood, Entourage, Quentin T., etc. There are graphic depictions of human sexuality in a lot of media that many of us enjoy. What is it about actually 'seeing something go in' that makes it more inherently harmful than simulacra? And when does simulacra cause harm?

For the orthodox members, these questions aren't such a big deal, but what about everyone else? What about the True Blood fans?

[Indy Coug]

I have a legit question that just might give this thread some legs again. What is pornography?

If you haven't figured this out after 657 replies in this thread....

[Babs]

If you haven't figured this out after 657 replies in this thread....

I'm thinking 666 will be fitting.