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  • #5851
    This was circulating in the local legal circles, but somehow didn't make it into the local papers. KSL reported on it before anyone in Las Vegas did:
    https://www.ksl.com/article/51498334
    "Utah attorney performs life-saving CPR mid-hearing, credits time in Boy Scouts"

    Bankruptcy trial, and David Winterton was cross examining. David used to be in my stake presidency several moves ago, and he's currently the patriarch of his stake. For a number of years, his office was near mine, and we'd run into each other at In-n-Out. Good dude. He had a heart attack, and opposing counsel promptly started CPR. He was able to be revived after about 15 minutes once the automatic defibrillator arrived.

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    • #5852
      Patriarch Winterton is a good dude. He's pretty old, and while I knew he wasn't fully retired, I'm surprised to learn he is still doing trial work.
      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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      • #5853
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        Patriarch Winterton is a good dude. He's pretty old, and while I knew he wasn't fully retired, I'm surprised to learn he is still doing trial work.
        I didn't know he was a patriarch. I had a case against him last year. He's not nearly as sharp as he was. He should not be practicing law at this point.

        Sad to hear this news, and I'm glad he's okay.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • #5854
          Clark Gilbert has fired dozens of professors if he disagrees with them? And now is an apostle.

          Man sad times for education and the church

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          • #5855
            Originally posted by Maximus View Post
            Clark Gilbert has fired dozens of professors if he disagrees with them? And now is an apostle.

            Man sad times for education and the church
            Did he fire them because he disagrees with them or because they didn’t follow the CES policies?
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • #5856
              Originally posted by Moliere View Post

              Did he fire them because he disagrees with them or because they didn’t follow the CES policies?
              I don't know, but we haven't signed a big since he became apostle after saying we wouldn't be the highest bidder in NIL.

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              • #5857
                Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                Did he fire them because he disagrees with them or because they didn’t follow the CES policies?
                His new made up ces policies ?

                Do professors deserve to be fired if they have gay married kids?

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                • #5858
                  Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                  His new made up ces policies ?

                  Do professors deserve to be fired if they have gay married kids?
                  I’m sure there are a bunch of professors still in the CES system that have gay children.

                  This feels like a very disingenuous discussion so I’ll let you vaguely yell at the sky alone.
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • #5859
                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                    I’m sure there are a bunch of professors still in the CES system that have gay children.

                    This feels like a very disingenuous discussion so I’ll let you vaguely yell at the sky alone.
                    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022...fired-failing/

                    One was warned for having a photo of her daughter. Another was fired for...a Facebook post supporting gay marriage

                    Do you think support of legal gay marriage is cause for firing from byu?

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                    • #5860
                      Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

                      I don't know, but we haven't signed a big since he became apostle after saying we wouldn't be the highest bidder in NIL.
                      This is quite a faith-promoting observation!!! MartyFunkhouser do you think you could at least feel the spirit a tiny bit should this be the case???

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