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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69409

    #5866
    Originally posted by CJF View Post

    Don't we have an apostle with a gay married child? If not married at least openly in a gay relationship.
    Gerrit Gong.

    BYU has a ton of faculty with gay kids. Trans kids too.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • Shaka
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 10432

      #5867
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

      Gerrit Gong.

      BYU has a ton of faculty with gay kids. Trans kids too.
      Gong is my absolute favorite. He's the only Apostle I've ever seen that loves to have a wireless mic so he can wander around the chapel/gym as he gives a fireside.

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      • Clark Addison
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 10287

        #5868
        Originally posted by Shaka View Post

        Gong is my absolute favorite. He's the only Apostle I've ever seen that loves to have a wireless mic so he can wander around the chapel/gym as he gives a fireside.
        You would have loved William R Bradford. Put that man in a gym with 100 missionaries and a chalk board and you know that over the next two hours 1. He will be all over the place (both physically and metaphorically), and 2. You will be seeing some weird stuff.

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        • PaloAltoCougar
          Semper infra dignitatem
          • Nov 2008
          • 16908

          #5869
          Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

          You would have loved William R Bradford. Put that man in a gym with 100 missionaries and a chalk board and you know that over the next two hours 1. He will be all over the place (both physically and metaphorically), and 2. You will be seeing some weird stuff.
          He spoke at our stake conference around 30 years ago and I really wish i could remember a few lines that had me looking around as if to ask others, "Are you hearting this?" There were several such moments, but the only one I still recall was, "There will never be a cure for AIDS, for God will not be mocked." Stupid and disgusting.

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          • Clark Addison
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 10287

            #5870
            Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

            He spoke at our stake conference around 30 years ago and I really wish i could remember a few lines that had me looking around as if to ask others, "Are you hearting this?" There were several such moments, but the only one I still recall was, "There will never be a cure for AIDS, for God will not be mocked." Stupid and disgusting.
            Yikes, he fortunately never told us that, but I still remember when he mapped out on the blackboard where the earth would physically would be moved to its new location.

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            • PaloAltoCougar
              Semper infra dignitatem
              • Nov 2008
              • 16908

              #5871
              Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

              Yikes, he fortunately never told us that, but I still remember when he mapped out on the blackboard where the earth would physically would be moved to its new location.
              That's much better and more entertaining. I much prefer a weirdo over a bigot.

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27764

                #5872
                Originally posted by Joe Public View Post

                I wasn’t much for Cecil Samuelson, either.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • falafel
                  loves to talk on things
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 37836

                  #5873
                  Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                  kinda sad a GA will ruin BYU due to selfrighteouss indignation
                  Uh, BYU ain't gonna be ruined by one junior apostle.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Maximus
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5997

                    #5874
                    Originally posted by falafel View Post

                    Uh, BYU ain't gonna be ruined by one junior apostle.
                    Ok byu basketball won't ever outbid though

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                    • chrisrenrut
                      Strikes and Gutters
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2253

                      #5875
                      Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                      Ok byu basketball won't ever outbid though
                      Didn’t he say that prior to the signing of Dybantsa?

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                      • All-American
                        Right, as Usual
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 15637

                        #5876
                        Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

                        Hard to say whether Cecil or Merril Bateman, may he rot in hell, was the worst BYU president.
                        ... that's a bit much, but I do think it the university president functions better when the person in the chair is not a general authority.
                        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                        • Maximus
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 5997

                          #5877
                          Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

                          Didn’t he say that prior to the signing of Dybantsa?
                          was he elevated back then

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                          • wally
                            <><><><><><><><>
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 4136

                            #5878
                            Originally posted by BigPiney View Post

                            Hard to say whether Cecil or Merril Bateman, may he rot in hell, was the worst BYU president.
                            Maybe after Reese, BYU appoints Mark Harlan as the next pres? Wouldn't be so hard on poor Cecil and Merril then, would you?

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                            • Shaka
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 10432

                              #5879
                              Are you people following the Bricks and Minfigs scandal?

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                              • chrisrenrut
                                Strikes and Gutters
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2253

                                #5880
                                Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                                was he elevated back then
                                Shit, your making me look up the answer my own question.

                                Gilbert was Commisar, er, Commissioner of CES in late 2024 when he said the quote below.
                                We can never become a place where the culture is pay to play. We would undermine everything at BYU if that wins out.

                                “All binding decisions go through (BYU) President Shane Reese to me and then to the full board,” Elder Gilbert said. “No one else can bind the university in any other way, not Tom Holmoe (athletic director), not the donors, and not our coach.”

                                in this article where that is quoted, they mention that Demin and Catchings were recent signees. So it was before Dybantsa.

                                However, he also said that while coaches salaries all come from internal budgets (but NOT tithing funds) and not donors, he doesn’t say that about funds.

                                “The church isn’t going to weigh in on dollar amounts or recruits, that’s the job of the university,” said Elder Gilbert. “But we will lay out some principles. We can never become a place where the culture is pay to play. We would undermine everything at BYU if that wins out. It’s tempting (but) if they don’t fit the mission, we’d unravel everything.”

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