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Come on. Has anyone claimed this is a revelation?Originally posted by jay santos View PostJames the MOTCOJCOLDS.
Branding decisions for large organizations take decades to implement. We had just started a "Mormon" branding effort 10-20 years ago that has been reasonably successful. I know this doesn't really matter. But I'm having a hard time thinking why this is a good idea. At some point the "God told me to do it" angle is going to lessen in effectiveness. I think we're about there."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Originally posted by jay santos View PostFirst sentence of the statement:
"The Lord has impressed upon my mind the importance of the name He has revealed for His Church, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
I think they should re-name the church The Reorganized Community of Christ."More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
-- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)
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So does that mean that every detail of the implementation is direct from God? I am surprised that bugs you.Originally posted by jay santos View PostFirst sentence of the statement:
"The Lord has impressed upon my mind the importance of the name He has revealed for His Church, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.""There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I've noticed how one member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will have different interpretations of statements of leaders of of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints than the other member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostSo does that mean that every detail of the implementation is direct from God? I am surprised that bugs you.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
--Kendrick Lamar
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It is almost like people are individuals or something!Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View PostI've noticed how one member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will have different interpretations of statements of leaders of of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints than the other member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I agree with your above sentiment completely. And while the rebranding technically began in 2010, it really began in earnest in late 2011, when the "I'm a Mormon" stuff started launching beyond a select few markets. Which is interesting, because I distinctly remember rolling my eyes at an M. Russell Ballard talk in 2011, when, while the Church was in the midst of this rebranding effort, he gave a talk about how we shouldn't call ourselves Mormons. So here we are, less than 7 years after a full-fledged embrace by the Church of the name Mormon, now supposed to pretend like we didn't mean it? Ridiculous. Just like George Costanza doesn't get to pick his nickname, we don't get to pick ours.Originally posted by jay santos View PostJames the MOTCOJCOLDS.
Branding decisions for large organizations take decades to implement. We had just started a "Mormon" branding effort 10-20 years ago that has been reasonably successful. I know this doesn't really matter. But I'm having a hard time thinking why this is a good idea.
Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostI seem to recall a campaign a few years (several years?) back that was basically the same thing about no longer using "mormon" and referring to the full name of the church. It didn't really last long.
See M. Russell Balllard talk referenced above. Talk given right smack in the middle of the "I'm a Mormon" campaign. Makes sense, right?
https://www.lds.org/general-conferen...-name?lang=engLast edited by Donuthole; 08-17-2018, 08:59 AM.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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I agree that this is likely a futile effort."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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who cares? People will continue to call members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Mormons, and most Mormons won't care. Those who do care will make Mormons seem strange, but not any stranger than they already are. I say Mormons are strange knowing full well I can't escape my own strangeness due to my upbringing, yea even embracing my strangeness bestowed upon me by my people.Dyslexics are teople poo...
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James the Organ? James the Unit? James the Junk?Originally posted by Flystripper View PostProbably should just change it to James the Member and nix the restAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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The revelation was in the D&C, which is linked through the church's statement, where God DID reveal the name of the church. All the Prophet here is saying is that he has been impressed with the importance of that earlier revelation.Originally posted by jay santos View PostFirst sentence of the statement:
"The Lord has impressed upon my mind the importance of the name He has revealed for His Church, even The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."
In looking at the style guide, I don't see too much that should be a problem except for the request not to call members Mormons and to not refer to Mormonism. It's fine to ask that the chiurch's actual name be used when referring to the church, but I think the use of the terms "mormon" and :"mormonism" are so efficient and entrenched (its not only a nickname chosen for us, it is the nickname we chose to use) that I cant see the reference disappearing. But nothing in either the statement or the guide says this is a revelation. To the contrary, it distinguishes the revelation, which is in the D&C, from the statement, which is an impression.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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