Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the News

[Jeff Lebowski]

those kirton guys pumping out menial church work have it rough

He works on some interesting cases. Really sharp guy.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm always a little amazed with people like this, they can be doing something that is just terrible yet still feel very compelled to follow other teachings of the church.

I knew a guy who was running a big ponzi scheme and he would attend the temple every day! I think it was a subconscious way of trying to convince himself that he was a good person. The deeper he got into the ponzi scheme, the more church references he started to make. I had some money invested with him and that set off all kinds of alarm bells. I went straight to my attorney and we were able to recover all my money with interest, but had I delayed even 2-3 days, I would have lost everything. It was quite a story. I should share the gory details sometime.

[PaloAltoCougar]

I knew a guy who was running a big ponzi scheme and he would attend the temple every day! I think it was a subconscious way of trying to convince himself that he was a good person. The deeper he got into the ponzi scheme, the more church references he started to make. I had some money invested with him and that set off all kinds of alarm bells. I went straight to my attorney and we were able to recover all my money with interest, but had I delayed even 2-3 days, I would have lost everything. It was quite a story. I should share the gory details sometime.

You were lucky. When these schemes collapse, the court or a receiver is usually empowered to claw back distributions that were made in the final days to innocent victims like you, and then the recovered funds are divided among all victims equally, after compensating the receiver and lawyers.

[Moliere]

I am not surprised that they would do that. It is absolutely the right thing to do as the church has substantially less need for the money than the victims. It is also excellent PR.

I think you are seeing criticisms where none were intended. The only thing that was meant to criticize is this asshole.

Yeah, no criticism there. Just a direct assumption the church is returning it because they have a lot of money and it’s good PR :eyeroll:


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[Jeff Lebowski]

You were lucky. When these schemes collapse, the court or a receiver is usually empowered to claw back distributions that were made in the final days to innocent victims like you, and then the recovered funds are divided among all victims equally, after compensating the receiver and lawyers.

Yeah, we got in just ahead of that process. We recovered our money by foreclosing on some property the guy owned. Shortly thereafter, he was arrested.

I wanted to kiss my attorney. His quick action saved my butt.

[Uncle Ted]

I have a friend who works for Kirton and McConkie and one of his jobs is returning tithing money in fraud cases like this. They do it all the time.

Sorry funk.

I am not convinced they do it all the time... maybe just for cases that are in the news. I personally know of a case here in Texas where the guy used his church position to convince members to loan him money. Long story short, the church didn't return any of his tithing paid to the church to his victims. Therefore, I am guessing that it is only the high profile cases that K&M gets involved. The church definitely knew about the guy's actions. Many of his victims ran and told the SP. It did a bit of damage but really only at the local level.

[frank ryan]

Yeah, we got in just ahead of that process. We recovered our money by foreclosing on some property the guy owned. Shortly thereafter, he was arrested.

I wanted to kiss my attorney. His quick action saved my butt.

Didn't figure you as a sucker for a ponzi scheme. Glad your attorney saved the day.

[frank ryan]

Remember the LDS motorcycle shop owner killed in South Carolina in 2003 along with 3 other people at his shop: http://www.goupstate.com/article/NC/.../605174807/SJ/

It turns out he was killed by this serial killer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-more-victims

The bastard says he's killed nearly 100 people but won't tell when, who, and where the bodies are.

BFM, I didn't hear about those particular murders, but this is the same dude who left creepy Amazon reviews.

For a shovel with a folding handle, the user posted a review suggesting, “keep in car for when you have to hide the bodies and you left the full size shovel at home.”

The user reportedly left a review for a knife that read: “havnet (sic) stabbed anyone yet...... yet.... but I am keeping the dream alive and when I do, it will be with a quality tool like this...”

In a review about a padlock, the Greenville News reports the user wrote: “solid locks.. have 5 on a shipping container.. wont stop them.. but sure will slow them down til they are too old to care. (sic)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chillin...todd-kohlhepp/

[Clark Addison]

Remember the LDS motorcycle shop owner killed in South Carolina in 2003 along with 3 other people at his shop: http://www.goupstate.com/article/NC/.../605174807/SJ/

It turns out he was killed by this serial killer: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-more-victims

The bastard says he's killed nearly 100 people but won't tell when, who, and where the bodies are.

That’s interesting. I saw this story for the first time today. There was a picture of the shop owner, and I thought “hey, that guy looks like a Mormon”, but didn’t investigate.

Good to know the Mo-dar is working.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Didn't figure you as a sucker for a ponzi scheme. Glad your attorney saved the day.

Ouch!

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am not convinced they do it all the time... maybe just for cases that are in the news. I personally know of a case here in Texas where the guy used his church position to convince members to loan him money. Long story short, the church didn't return any of his tithing paid to the church to his victims. Therefore, I am guessing that it is only the high profile cases that K&M gets involved. The church definitely knew about the guy's actions. Many of his victims ran and told the SP. It did a bit of damage but really only at the local level.

Maybe the SP never reported it up the chain. Maybe the conviction was ambiguous. I don't know. He told me it is standard policy.

And yeah, maybe they only investigate the bigger cases.

[Shaka]

My friend's brother suing Clayton. Disappointing if true.

https://poetsandquants.com/2017/12/1...ent-dispute/2/

[old_gregg]

only a claim of “breach of fiduciary duty” had cleared the bar of plausibility

lol

[falafel]

My friend's brother suing Clayton. Disappointing if true.

https://poetsandquants.com/2017/12/1...ent-dispute/2/

Disappointing for who? Christensen?

[Shaka]

Disappointing for who? Christensen?

I would be disappointed in CC if the allegations are true.