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Fine. I will belabor this point. I am not walking it back. I sincerely believe what I wrote.
I am setting it aside, since all we were getting at was the intellectually lazy practice of dismissing the entire message because of the (perceived or real) bias of the messenger. And that is no way to run a discussion.
But since my sanitized "thesis" seems to raise no hackles, I guess I'm done here.
:hug:
All biases are sincere. Otherwise they would not be biases. And it is not lazy to question bias, particularly when the message is full of normative evaluations. In fact, it is then essential.
Why spend the hefty amount? What does this do for the church? The church's money spent should be guided by its 3 oh I mean 4 folded mission (perfect the saints, proclaim the gospel, redeem the dead & Care for the poor and Needy). Under what part of the mission does this 35 million purchase fall? Does this get put in a museum or does this go to storage? Was the high amount done with a wink so when they are ready to sell some land holdings the church has interest in they are on good terms?
"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
Isn't it clear that this is a goodwill measure taken by the church to help out its step sister? There's no way the transcript is worth anywhere near $35MM, so there's an additional motive. I choose to assume that this is a down payment for the Kirtland Temple and a right of first refusal on the COC's parking spaces in Independence during the Second Coming.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
They were probably looking down the barrel of bankruptcy. They also probably have enough relics to have the LDS Church keep them on life support until they have to give up the ultimate relic-- that specific piece of real estate that we're licking our chops to get.
It looks like the funds will essentially be applied to the CoC's $115 million(!) unfunded pension liability.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
Originally posted by New Mexican DisasterView Post
Whatever you do don't say mammon.
I can't remember, does filthy lucre pass the Creekster test?
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
I can't remember, does filthy lucre pass the Creekster test?
I only read a fraction of that debate, but I did catch the part about Mammon and creekster has a point. This is the google definition:
wealth regarded as an evil influence or false object of worship and devotion. It was taken by medieval writers as the name of the devil of covetousness, and revived in this sense by Milton.
It is a loaded term and does not simply refer to money.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
I only read a fraction of that debate, but I did catch the part about Mammon and creekster has a point. This is the google definition:
It is a loaded term and does not simply refer to money.
I'm actually on Creek's side in that instance. But after his exhaustive reply, I wanted to jerk his chain a little.
"...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
wow. I can believe I actually enjoyed all of that ink being spilt. Its a pretty boring topic, but you guys made is somewhat interesting! Bravo to you both.
Solon won; the monkey lost. End of story.
"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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