183 Semiannual General Conference Thread

[clackamascoug]

Yeah, I can imagine how that conversation goes:

Anonymous News Room intern: "Um, President Packer? We were wondering if we could tweak the language of your talk just a bit before we go to press. We don't want to offend our all-important liberal constituency that always raises a stink about the PoF. I know you had explicitly argued that the PoF met the criteria to be defined as a 'revelation' but it would be easier for our office if we softened the language a bit and just called it 'inspired counsel' instead."

BKP: "Perhaps you're right. I don't want to ruffle the feathers of any feminists, intellectuals, or liberals. Go ahead and make any changes you see fit to keep them happy. And get me a Coke on your way out."

The Church should save the money from these paid professionals, and just let us pre-delivery edit them here. We end up parsing them anyway. Could technically be a "senior mission."

[Solon]

Yeah, I can imagine how that conversation goes:

Anonymous News Room intern: "Um, President Packer? We were wondering if we could tweak the language of your talk just a bit before we go to press. We don't want to offend our all-important liberal constituency that always raises a stink about the PoF. I know you had explicitly argued that the PoF met the criteria to be defined as a 'revelation' but it would be easier for our office if we softened the language a bit and just called it 'inspired counsel' instead."

BKP: "Perhaps you're right. I don't want to ruffle the feathers of any feminists, intellectuals, or liberals. Go ahead and make any changes you see fit to keep them happy. And get me a Coke on your way out."

Awesome.

[Topper]

Awesome.

Btw, which of the talks should I read other than Uchtdorf's? In light of the inspired counsel here, it seems if you inspired brethren and sisters would shorten my reading list, it would be most appreciated.

[Indy Coug]

Btw, which of the talks should I read other than Uchtdorf's? In light of the inspired counsel here, it seems if you inspired brethren and sisters would shorten my reading list, it would be most appreciated.

Is your time that limited?

[Topper]

Is your time that limited?

What with work, languages and messages boards, it tends to be limited.

I'd prefer to avoid the boring talks but I do know how to speed read. Which talks are highlights in your opinion, btw?

[UVACoug]

Yeah, I can imagine how that conversation goes:

Anonymous News Room intern: "Um, President Packer? We were wondering if we could tweak the language of your talk just a bit before we go to press. We don't want to offend our all-important liberal constituency that always raises a stink about the PoF. I know you had explicitly argued that the PoF met the criteria to be defined as a 'revelation' but it would be easier for our office if we softened the language a bit and just called it 'inspired counsel' instead."

BKP: "Perhaps you're right. I don't want to ruffle the feathers of any feminists, intellectuals, or liberals. Go ahead and make any changes you see fit to keep them happy. And get me a Coke on your way out."

You're obviously using hyperbole here, but I still don't see what is wrong with having a P.R. expert review talks before they are published. Why wouldn't the Church want to avoid offending people needlessly? 1 Corinthians 8:9 comes to mind. If something may unnecessarily cause offense, why not take it out?

[Indy Coug]

What with work, languages and messages boards, it tends to be limited.

I'd prefer to avoid the boring talks but I do know how to speed read. Which talks are highlights in your opinion, btw?

Bah, I didn't watch any of it. Besides, everything they said changed once it was put into print.

[Harry Tic]

You're obviously using hyperbole here, but I still don't see what is wrong with having a P.R. expert review talks before they are published. Why wouldn't the Church want to avoid offending people needlessly? 1 Corinthians 8:9 comes to mind. If something may unnecessarily cause offense, why not take it out?

UVACoug, you may be right. See Peggy Stack: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfa...nkers.html.csp

The money quote: Church editors had suggested to the apostle that "referencing ‘some feminist thinkers’ would inevitably be read by many as ‘all feminist thinkers,’ " Todd explained in a statement. "Elder Christofferson agreed and has simply clarified his intent."

Two questions: (1) are you a mole from the COB?; and (2) how does one go about getting a job as a 'church editor'? That is one job in which I think I could actually make a difference in the world.

EDIT: For the record, I'm pretty sure that BKP's emendation was NOT just a helpful suggestion from an anonymous editor. But, who knows? Maybe it's the editors that really make the world go 'round after all.

[UVACoug]

UVACoug, you may be right. See Peggy Stack: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfa...nkers.html.csp

The money quote: Church editors had suggested to the apostle that "referencing ‘some feminist thinkers’ would inevitably be read by many as ‘all feminist thinkers,’ " Todd explained in a statement. "Elder Christofferson agreed and has simply clarified his intent."

Two questions: (1) are you a mole from the COB?; and (2) how does one go about getting a job as a 'church editor'? That is one job in which I think I could actually make a difference in the world.

EDIT: For the record, I'm pretty sure that BKP's emendation was NOT just a helpful suggestion from an anonymous editor. But, who knows? Maybe it's the editors that really make the world go 'round after all.

I laughed when I saw that column from PFS. I wonder what her alias is here. I'm guessing she is DDD.

For the record, I think you guys make way too much out of the edits in BKP's talk a few years ago ... not that that is surprising or interesting.

[jay santos]

I laughed when I saw that column from PFS. I wonder what her alias is here. I'm guessing she is DDD.

For the record, I think you guys make way too much out of the edits in BKP's talk a few years ago ... not that that is surprising or interesting.

How do you think the process for giving conference talks goes? You think live over the air is the first time "church editors" get any of the material?

[Northwestcoug]

I laughed when I saw that column from PFS. I wonder what her alias is here. I'm guessing she is DDD.

For the record, I think you guys make way too much out of the edits in BKP's talk a few years ago ... not that that is surprising or interesting.

Yeah, you should always discount a Stack column. Especially when she quotes the church spokesperson about who edited Christofferson's talk. Her agenda is just too jaded to trust anything she says.

[TripletDaddy]

I am not Peggy Fletcher Stack. For those that have met me, can I get some help on this one, please?

[Indy Coug]

Yeah, you should always discount a Stack column. Especially when she quotes the church spokesperson about who edited Christofferson's talk. Her agenda is just too jaded to trust anything she says.

[Clark Addison]

I am not Peggy Fletcher Stack. For those that have met me, can I get some help on this one, please?

For the vouchification to help, wouldn't the witness have had to meet BOTH you and Peggy Fletcher Stack?

[TripletDaddy]

For the vouchification to help, wouldn't the witness have had to meet BOTH you and Peggy Fletcher Stack?

be quiet. go practice your cantonese.