Rumors of 19 year old females going on missions

[kccougar]

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing. But he claims a GA told him that.

In 1979, the number of RM's attending church at least once a month was 97%

In 1999, the number of RM's attending church at least once a month was 94%

In 2019, I expect the number of RM's attending church at least once a month will be nowhere near 50%.

[Sullyute]

In 1979, the number of RM's attending church at least once a month was 97%

In 1999, the number of RM's attending church at least once a month was 94%

In 2019, I expect the number of RM's attending church at least once a month will be nowhere near 50%.

I don't believe the 1999 number one bit either unless you give me what they classify as RM. All RM's or just recently returned missionaries?

[kccougar]

I don't believe the 1999 number one bit either unless you give me what they classify as RM. All RM's or just recently returned missionaries?

https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.ph...File/6936/6585

[Omaha 680]

It's not the 50% activity rate, but the 5 year window it takes to get there that is impossible to believe for me.

[Moliere]

Greg Prince must have the same insider as John Dehlin.

[Shaka]

Seems a little high but of true it wouldn't shock me. The percentage of inactive mid-single RM's is much higher.

[Brian]

how is inactive defined?

No TR?

[Shaka]

how is inactive defined?

No TR?

I think you have to attend church once a month to be considered active. Maybe it's twice a month. TR has nothing to do with it.

[Sullyute]

So am am listening to the podast now. Greg Prince said that a general authority told him 15 years ago that there was "an alarming rate of inactivity" among returned missionaries. A more recent convesation he had puts that rate at 1/3 to 1/2 of returned missionaries. If KC's numbers are correct (or the study he linked to is correct) then why would a general authority say that an "alarming rate" were going inactive? 6% is not alarming (considering the general inactivity rate of members as a whole). One explanation may be that US RM's are doing well but foriegn RM's are not.

*By the way the study looked at almost 5000 random returned missionaries (US only) home as far as 17 years (or basically under 40 years old). Mail survey forms were sent with a 73% response rate. They then called the bishops of the non-responders to see if the missionaries were active and the response was that 76% were active (coming at least three times a month).

[Sullyute]

how is inactive defined?

No TR?

Based on the survey, 85% of RM's were TR holders. 96% attended at least once a month.

[myboynoah]

So am am listening to the podast now. Greg Prince said that a general authority told him 15 years ago that there was "an alarming rate of inactivity" among returned missionaries. A more recent convesation he had puts that rate at 1/3 to 1/2 of returned missionaries. If KC's numbers are correct (or the study he linked to is correct) then why would a general authority say that an "alarming rate" were going inactive? 6% is not alarming (considering the general inactivity rate of members as a whole). One explanation may be that US RM's are doing well but foriegn RM's are not.

*By the way the study looked at almost 5000 random returned missionaries (US only) home as far as 17 years (or basically under 40 years old). Mail survey forms were sent with a 73% response rate. They then called the bishops of the non-responders to see if the missionaries were active and the response was that 76% were active (coming at least three times a month).

Hmmmmmm, I wonder what it could be.

[wuapinmon]

Gregory Prince said that a GA told him that 50% of RMs go inactive within five years of returning home from their missions. He also said that 13% of full-time missionaries will leave their missions prematurely. Around 20:00 and 22:00 in the recent radio west broadcast: http://radiowest.kuer.org/post/lds-missions

Have these numbers always been this high?

I will say this, all but one of my cousins' kids, and I have a lot of cousins, have come home early. They did, however, remain active.

[kccougar]

So am am listening to the podast now. Greg Prince said that a general authority told him 15 years ago that there was "an alarming rate of inactivity" among returned missionaries. A more recent convesation he had puts that rate at 1/3 to 1/2 of returned missionaries. If KC's numbers are correct (or the study he linked to is correct) then why would a general authority say that an "alarming rate" were going inactive? 6% is not alarming (considering the general inactivity rate of members as a whole). One explanation may be that US RM's are doing well but foriegn RM's are not.

*By the way the study looked at almost 5000 random returned missionaries (US only) home as far as 17 years (or basically under 40 years old). Mail survey forms were sent with a 73% response rate. They then called the bishops of the non-responders to see if the missionaries were active and the response was that 76% were active (coming at least three times a month).

Who is Greg Prince anyway?

[Sullyute]

Who is Greg Prince anyway?

He is a liberal leaning mormon historian. He wrote the biography on President McKay.

[Clark Addison]

Sooner would be the right one to talk about this but there is a quack industry built up around telling people with persistent fatigue that they have Chronic Lyme Disease using tests that falsely diagnose it, then asking patients to pay for prolonged antibiotics.

She's the classic type of person that gets taken advantage of by these idiot health care "practitioners."

Thanks to CS, when my wife recently told me that a woman she home teaches has been having a hard time "because she has Lyme Disease", I was able to respond with a curt: "No she doesn't".

As the conversation progressed, I found out that one of the reasons that she has been having a hard time is that she hasn't been able to find a doctor to treat her disease. She had one, but he got caught up in some disciplinary stuff and moved out of town. She thinks she has found a new one, but he is way over on the other side of the city, a 45 minute drive away.