Care for some Caffeine?

[SoonerCoug]

How do you keep the halves separated while drinking?

Sounds like you're smoking Oregon weed.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Sounds like you're smoking Oregon weed.

I'm in Washington right now.

[Bo Diddley]

Apparently there is no demand!

You wouldn't know that from all the soda vendors on the edge of campus and all the mini-fridges in faculty offices.

I can verify this. I used to fill the vending machines at BYU while going to school. Not once did anyone buy a caffeinated beverage from one of the machines--proof that there was zero demand.

[Donuthole]

One thing that's so great about BYU-I is the constant desire to live a higher law. Using unassailable logic, this BYU-I professor shows us why the recent Church statement that caffeine is not addressed in the WOW is actually wrong:

Similarly, the property of “heat” in a “hot drink” has nothing to do with the physical temperature (i.e., degrees Fahrenheit) of the drink. Instead, the “heat” of a “hot drink” is a reference to the chemical properties of some of its physical ingredients—that is, caffeine, theobromine, etc. With that in mind, take a look at these interesting definitions of the words “hot” and “heat” from the Webster’s 1828 dictionary, the dictionary in use at the same time the Lord gave the revelation to Joseph Smith as recorded in D&C 89:

Definition of “Hot” (Webster’s 1828) ·

• Easily excited, eager ·
• Animated, brisk ·
• Stimulating

Definition of “Heat” (Webster’s 1828) ·

• Animal excitement; violent action or agitation of the system [or] body ·
• To excite; to rouse into action ·
• Agitate the blood and spirits with action; to excite animal action ·
• Ferment; [i.e.,] to set in motion; to excite internal motion; to heat; as in ferments the blood

It is evident from the above definitions that the word “hot” is probably a reference to the “stimulating” effects of the drugs found in drinks. Using that dictionary, the term “hotdrinks” could be re-written as “stimulating drinks” and have the same meaning. So, when Joseph and Hyrum Smith explained that “hot drinks” referred to “tea and coffee”, were they were simply clarifying that the word “hot” was a direct and specific reference to the “hot” stimulants found therein, and NOT the “hot” temperature of the drinks? I think so. Why have we not been taught this proper meaning of “hot”? I’m not sure; it is something of a mystery to me that we haven’t, because it seems to be so simple. Failure to do so has led to confusion, rationalization, and the loss of the Spirit for many.

http://www.josephsmithforum.org/rese...ord-of-wisdom/

I'm tempted to give the guy a pass for being an overzealous idiot. After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

[imanihonjin]

One thing that's so great about BYU-I is the constant desire to live a higher law. Using unassailable logic, this BYU-I professor shows us why the recent Church statement that caffeine is not addressed in the WOW is actually wrong:




http://www.josephsmithforum.org/rese...ord-of-wisdom/

I'm tempted to give the guy a pass for being an overzealous idiot. After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

I noticed he spells his name "Jayson". I pretty much knew right then that I didn't really care what he has to say about pretty much anything at all.

[Eddie]

I noticed he spells his name "Jayson". I pretty much knew right then that I didn't really care what he has to say about pretty much anything at all.

So you don't believe that people should be punished for their own sins rather than their parents' transgressions?

[Dwight Schr-ute]

One thing that's so great about BYU-I is the constant desire to live a higher law. Using unassailable logic, this BYU-I professor shows us why the recent Church statement that caffeine is not addressed in the WOW is actually wrong:




http://www.josephsmithforum.org/rese...ord-of-wisdom/

I'm tempted to give the guy a pass for being an overzealous idiot. After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

This seemed a pretty important detail to get out into the open, early.

Jayson S. Kunzler was born and raised in Orem, Utah as the seventh of eight children. He served a full-time mission to the Japan Fukuoka Mission in Kyushu, Japan. After his mission, Jayson married Jennifer Roberts of Orem, Utah. They have eight children, all of whom have been home-schooled for over ten years.

Although, maybe with a proper education, he would have known that the grammatically correct statement would be "home-schooled for more than ten years."

Also, I'll never understand some people's drive to convince others how "into" the gospel they are.

Jayson’s interests include being with his family, studying the scriptures, fly fishing, and other outdoor activities.

[imanihonjin]

So you don't believe that people should be punished for their own sins rather than their parents' transgressions?

If he were 10 or 14, I'd be with you, but he has been an adult for a long time and could have taken care of this.

[Jeff Lebowski]

After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

Yes! Preach it, brother.

[Dwight Schr-ute]

I'm tempted to give the guy a pass for being an overzealous idiot. After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

Also an engineer.

[RC Vikings]

One thing that's so great about BYU-I is the constant desire to live a higher law. Using unassailable logic, this BYU-I professor shows us why the recent Church statement that caffeine is not addressed in the WOW is actually wrong:




http://www.josephsmithforum.org/rese...ord-of-wisdom/

I'm tempted to give the guy a pass for being an overzealous idiot. After all, he is from Utah County and he served a mission in Japan. That is pretty much a recipe for disaster.

I wish you Utah people would do a better job of keeping your nut jobs down there. They act like Rexburg is a lab to test out their craziness.

[byu71]

I wish you Utah people would do a better job of keeping your nut jobs down there. They act like Rexburg is a lab to test out their craziness.

Next time I am at conference I will vote no on sustaining the GA's. If asked why, I will say I don't support sending our Utah nut jobs to Rexburg. I can't think of anything else I can do.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I wish you Utah people would do a better job of keeping your nut jobs down there. They act like Rexburg is a lab to test out their craziness.

Haha. Yeah no such thing as a zealot from Idaho, right?

[creekster]

I am not nearly as offended by his zealotry as I am by his lack of clear thinking.

[RC Vikings]

Haha. Yeah no such thing as a zealot from Idaho, right?

We've got our share and they don't need any help.