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  • #91
    Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    If you compare something to Hitler or Stalin that doesn't involve actual mass murder, you automatically lose the argument. Sorry.
    The whole notion of a church conducting an evidentiary hearing is silly. Sorry.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      Yikes. That seems awfully condescending.

      First of all, why is that a dodge? Could it be that the statement is sometimes true?

      Second, what makes you think that YO is one of the "people who aren't sympathetic at all"?
      I was saying that I was reacting to more than what he was saying, not pointing a finger at him. If that was not clear, then my bad. I believe YO has good thoughts and intentions.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
        I'm not trying to be difficult with you amigo, but I am remarkably weary of the "oh I'm sympathetic but they went about it all wrong" dodge I so often I hear from people who aren't sympathetic at all whether it is on this issue or others. This is one of the reasons I liked Coach's response.
        I've enjoyed your responses and I think you truly are looking for dialogue, and not just on CUF, but I take minor exception with being lumped into a group of people simply because I find the event silly. You're assuming those responding aren't in fact sympathetic when people like myself find the announcement quite self-serving but remain sympathetic to any crises of faith. I think that's an important distinction.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
          I've enjoyed your responses and I think you truly are looking for dialogue, and not just on CUF, but I take minor exception with being lumped into a group of people simply because I find the event silly. You're assuming those responding aren't in fact sympathetic when people like myself find the announcement quite self-serving but remain sympathetic to any crises of faith. I think that's an important distinction.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
            I've enjoyed your responses and I think you truly are looking for dialogue, and not just on CUF, but I take minor exception with being lumped into a group of people simply because I find the event silly. You're assuming those responding aren't in fact sympathetic when people like myself find the announcement quite self-serving but remain sympathetic to any crises of faith. I think that's an important distinction.
            Fair enough. I don't mean to say anyone is being disingenuous. Maybe what I am thinking is that if you say you are sympathetic to gays but wish they wouldn't act so flamboyantly then maybe you aren't as sympathetic as you think you are. Particularly with something like this were no one is going out of there way to be offensive. Does that make sense?

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
              I've enjoyed your responses and I think you truly are looking for dialogue, and not just on CUF, but I take minor exception with being lumped into a group of people simply because I find the event silly. You're assuming those responding aren't in fact sympathetic when people like myself find the announcement quite self-serving but remain sympathetic to any crises of faith. I think that's an important distinction.
              By the way, do you and I interact is some other setting apart from CUF? Just trying to keep everyone in my multiple universes straight.

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              • #97
                If I were their stake prez, I would Ex them before they could resign!!! Pull the rug right out from under them!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by wally View Post
                  If I were their stake prez, I would Ex them before they could resign!!! Pull the rug right out from under them!
                  IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that'd land you in some questionable legal waters...
                  Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                  - Howard Aiken

                  Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                  - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by wally View Post
                    If I were their stake prez, I would Ex them before they could resign!!! Pull the rug right out from under them!
                    http://www.mormonnomore.com/legal-precedent

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                      IANAL, but I'm pretty sure that'd land you in some questionable legal waters...
                      Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                      http://www.mormonnomore.com/legal-precedent

                      Lawyers ruin everything.

                      So the Church has to just stand there and try not to flinch when those two-dozen apostates kick it in the groin. Poor Church.

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                        Fair enough. I don't mean to say anyone is being disingenuous. Maybe what I am thinking is that if you say you are sympathetic to gays but wish they wouldn't act so flamboyantly then maybe you aren't as sympathetic as you think you are. Particularly with something like this were no one is going out of there way to be offensive. Does that make sense?
                        Objectivity is nearly impossible for anyone on the LDS spectrum so by mocking I'm discounting their catharses, I see that, and it's a fair point. I'm sympathetic but perhaps not as much as I should be.
                        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                          By the way, do you and I interact is some other setting apart from CUF? Just trying to keep everyone in my multiple universes straight.
                          No, I've just read your comments on other blogs. I lurk, oh yes, I lurk.

                          Why I don't participate is a subject for another day.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                            I don't think I have commented about a Utah Valley fire. Are you talking about when wuap posted a photo of a Waldo Canyon fire (Colorado) that showed a picture of a burning house with a car in the driveway, and then I followed that by suggesting that Ox might find a car there, if it was close to Denver? If so, what does that have to do with the first amendment and mother earth?
                            http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?p=832894
                            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                            -Rick Majerus

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                            • #104
                              The planned rally marks an unusually display of defiance from members of the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, known for its culture of obedience. But the restive Mormons say they mean no disrespect.
                              Obvious typo in the second paragraph.

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
                                http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?p=832894
                                Ahhhh... thank you. I can now understand the confusion. I hadn't followed that thread, and didn't see the responses, until I followed your link. That said, I think people missed the point, which was an obtuse way of making fun of those who use tragic events and crazy rhetoric to talk about their pet projects which, at most, are only tangentially related. Whether we are talking about global warming alarmists who use every fire to justify their cause, or their counterparts who point to a heavy local snowfall and ask, "What global warming?," or Wright using the tragedy of 9/11 to comment on foreign policy, or Pat Robertson blaming earthquakes in CA on the gay rights movement... it is all part of the same crazy. I was, in a total non sequitur, making fun of those people.

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