Coffee Drinkers Die Less? WoW Implications

[doctorcoug]

I'm interested in hearing the LDS response to this...Coffee Drinking...when adjusted for smoking abuse, had an inverse association with risk of death. The hazard ratio became more significant the greater amount of coffee ingested.

NEJM Coffee Drinkers

I think the etoh ban in the church is questionable, but OK. Smoking ban is right on and a great decision. Coffee ban is purely cultural interpretation and should absolutely be reconsidered if further prospective RCT research validates this cohort study. Everytime physicians ask me why I don't drink coffee I give the same answer and it just makes our religion seem rediculous. This is my opinion; I'm curious to hear others' opinions on here about this.

We are basing tennets of our religion upon beliefs from Church leaders from 100 years ago and medical knowledge at the time, when physicians caused more harm than good. Time to move forward on this issue.

[Indy Coug]

Whether the "thou shalt not" items extend longevity or not is besides the point.

[Flystripper]

Whether the "thou shalt not" items extend longevity or not is besides the point.

Wait where in the section 89 does it say thou shalt not?

[marsupial]

How does one "die less?"

And I heart coffee.

[byu71]

I'm interested in hearing the LDS response to this...Coffee Drinking...when adjusted for smoking abuse, had an inverse association with risk of death. The hazard ratio became more significant the greater amount of coffee ingested.

NEJM Coffee Drinkers

I think the etoh ban in the church is questionable, but OK. Smoking ban is right on and a great decision. Coffee ban is purely cultural interpretation and should absolutely be reconsidered if further prospective research validates this retrospective study. Everytime physicians ask me why I don't drink coffee I give the same answer and it just makes our religion seem rediculous. This is my opinion; I'm curious to hear others' opinions on here about this.

We are basing tennets of our religion upon beliefs from Church leaders from 100 years ago and medical knowledge at the time, when physicians caused more harm than good. Time to move forward on this issue.

I understand the tobacco thing and why Emma would be against it. I can also see why she didn't care for alcohol. What was her problem though with "hot drinks".

[Jeff Lebowski]

Whether the "thou shalt not" items extend longevity or not is besides the point.

Typical Indy coyness. What is the point?

[Mrs. Funk]

How does one "die less?"

And I heart coffee.

The amount of sugar it takes for coffee to be palatable to me has far worse WoW implications for me than the coffee itself.

[creekster]

Typical Indy coyness. What is the point?

I am not sure it is very coy. He means that commandments do not, necessarily, have greater lifespan as a goal.

[Mormon Red Death]

How does one "die less?"

And I heart coffee.

Yes doesnt everybody die (exceptions are moses and elijah)?

[Donuthole]

How does one "die less?"

And I heart coffee.

Yes doesnt everybody die (exceptions are mose and elijah)?

It's a medical expression that you guys probably wouldn't understand.

[doctorcoug]

How does one "die less?"

And I heart coffee.

Die less is not entirely accurate. Decreased risk of dying during a time period, but that just takes up too much space in the subject.

[Indy Coug]

I am not sure it is very coy. He means that commandments do not, necessarily, have greater lifespan as a goal.

God seems to value covenants. It also appears, based on the the nature and content of various covenants over time that the contents of said covenants are secondary to whether or not we do what we covenanted or not.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am not sure it is very coy. He means that commandments do not, necessarily, have greater lifespan as a goal.

We promote it is a health code. "Run and not be weary, walk and not faint...". It seems to me that longer life span is a pretty solid indicator of health.

What am I missing?

[Topper]

So a person needs religious reasons to avoid drinking a dreadful tasting beverage?

Coffee drinkers also have no problems with regularity. Now there's a recommendation.

[Indy Coug]

We promote it is a health code. "Run and not be weary, walk and not faint...". It seems to me that longer life span is a pretty solid indicator of health.

What am I missing?

You're also missing the fact that someone else's research in 18 to 36 months will contradict the findings of this research.