Religion is Personal

[byu71]

I want to make it very clear that I believe that SoonerCoug actually had this alleged conversation and that his friend really does exist. I know some of you don't believe him, but I do.

HMMM, never crossed my mind his friend didn't exist. I just don't think his friend is representitive of mormons.

[smokymountainrain]

HMMM, never crossed my mind his friend didn't exist. I just don't think his friend is representitive of mormons.

You do understand this is SoonerCoug telling the story, right?

[SoonerCoug]

HMMM, never crossed my mind his friend didn't exist. I just don't think his friend is representitive of mormons.

I'd just like to point out that every one of my stories that could be independently verified was indeed independently verified or corroborated by newspaper articles.

Also, Wally and WashingtonCoug knew me on my mission and can back-up my mission stories including stories of robbery and murder.

Wally was the first missionary sent back to the area where two missionaries were stabbed. I'm pretty sure they chose him because he is smart, super nice, and also because he was about 6'4" and 240 pounds of pure muscle. His companion was also big or tall if I remember correctly.

Lastly, WashingtonCoug recently posted his personal opinion of me and my work for the Lord:

I can attest to this. Sooner was one of the best missionaries in our mission and my favorite companion. Sooner tries to act like an apostate, but it's really just a facade.

http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=57394&highlight=sentimental

[Jacob]

I'm not interested in marketing or converting people. I don't care what you believe. That's one difference between you and me.

Maybe Indy cares what you believe. But I don't. And neither do most mormons. We care as little about you as you do about us.

If your friend is offended by your religious talk, you should refrain from discussing it with him. This is not a matter of mormon speech silencing, it is a matter of polite civilization. Some people are offended by things you say, others are not. Try not to offend those who are if you want to keep them as friends.

[SoonerCoug]

Maybe Indy cares what you believe. But I don't. And neither do most mormons. We care as little about you as you do about us.

If your friend is offended by your religious talk, you should refrain from discussing it with him. This is not a matter of mormon speech silencing, it is a matter of polite civilization. Some people are offended by things you say, others are not. Try not to offend those who are if you want to keep them as friends.

Do you believe that Mormon speech silencing is a problem? Do you even believe it exists?

Maybe my friend wasn't an example of it, but I think it's a very real problem.

[byu71]

I'd just like to point out that every one of my stories that could be independently verified was indeed independently verified or corroborated by newspaper articles.

Also, Wally and WashingtonCoug knew me on my mission and can back-up my mission stories including stories of robbery and murder.

Wally was the first missionary sent back to the area where two missionaries were stabbed. I'm pretty sure they chose him because he is smart, super nice, and also because he was about 6'4" and 240 pounds of pure muscle. His companion was also big or tall if I remember correctly.

Lastly, WashingtonCoug recently posted his personal opinion of me and my work for the Lord:



http://cougaruteforum.com/showthread...ht=sentimental

I said,"it never crossed my mind....". You meant this for someone else didn't you?

[SoonerCoug]

I said,"it never crossed my mind....". You meant this for someone else didn't you?

It wasn't really for you. It was for the entire community. I know some people think I'm a liar, but the reality is that I just have a better memory than most.

[Jacob]

Do you believe that Mormon speech silencing is a problem? Do you even believe it exists?

Maybe my friend wasn't an example of it, but I think it's a very real problem.

I do not think that it is a problem in the way that you have discussed it in this thread.

[SoonerCoug]

I do not think that it is a problem in the way that you have discussed it in this thread.

In what way is it a problem?

[Indy Coug]

It wasn't really for you. It was for the entire community. I know some people think I'm a liar, but the reality is that I just have a better memory than most.

I think you suffer from memory augmentation.

[SoonerCoug]

I think you suffer from memory augmentation.

This comes from you, who doubted my story about the girl dying after sharing her testimony in class about her heart problems. Remember that? Many doubted. You mocked me, and then I posted the deseret news article detailing the whole thing.

Oh ye of little faith.

I think this is the great problem with religion. (Here I am doing a little advocacy for agnosticism.) Religion confuses fantasy with fact, and so religious people no longer know what to believe. The end result is that many people believe fantasy and deny fact, and that is a dangerous thing.

[Indy Coug]

This comes from you, who doubted my story about the girl dying after sharing her testimony in class about her heart problems. Remember that? Many doubted. You mocked me, and then I posted the deseret news article detailing the whole thing.

Oh ye of little faith.

I think this is the great problem with religion. (Here I am doing a little advocacy for agnosticism.) Religion confuses fantasy with fact, and so religious people no longer know what to believe. The end result is that many people believe fantasy and deny fact, and that is a dangerous thing.

It's a fact that the world is a better place when people try to be more Christlike.

[SoonerCoug]

It's a fact that the world is a better place when people try to be more Christlike.

I agree with that. I just don't think one needs to invoke God to have morality or to be Christlike.

[wuapinmon]

Is anyone bothered by his use of "proselytize?" Mormons use the verb "proselyte."

Your verb choice offends me.

[TripletDaddy]

I know some people think I'm a liar, but the reality is that I just have a better memory than most.

If any of you really think the SoonerCoug is prone to not telling the truth, please have the guts and integrity to confess now.

I have already stated that I believe SoonerCoug's yarns.