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  • Pelado
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    Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    That is a great answer but isn't that "evil speaking of the Lord's anointed"? Of course, is it "evil speaking" if the evidence seems to show that it is true?

    This article really doesn't present anything new. President David O. McKay, in 1954, said:


    If anything the article just re-ignites lingering questions about the entire thing and creates new ones. e.g.,

    (1) How is a 'servitor' different from a 'slave'? The footnote points out that Utah territorial "legislators perceived “servitude” to be a more humane alternative to slavery." Were these "servitors" free? For example, if some white guy ask a "servitor" to get a beer from the frig could he say, "F-off and get your own damn beer you lazy white cracker" without risking being beaten with a whip?

    (2) Why does the article mention Jane Manning James without mentioning that she was promised to be adopted into the family of Joseph Smith Jr? Of course, instead she was sealed to JS Jr as a slave "servitor" instead. The article fails to mention anything about that part.

    (3) Why didn't the article mention that Elijah Abel was a GA and was ordained by JS Jr?
    Here's the article that it referenced:

    http://utahhistory.sdlhost.com/#/ite...033000261/view

    Over the years, many historians have asserted that after receiving this new authority [Popular Sovereignty], the Utah Legislature drafted "An Act in Relation to Service" in order to legalize slavery in the territory. However, the reality is far more complicated. In fact, if one carefully examines the text of the statute in its proper context, it becomes clear that the this legislation did not legalize chattel slavery as it has been alleged. Rather, the act was an attempt to find a practical compromise between three contradictory goals. The first of these goals was to abolish the status of "slave," meaning a human being who is legally reduced to a chattel, or a piece of personal property. However, the second goal was to honor the property rights of a small number of Southern slaveholders who brought their slaves into Utah while also ensuring that these bondsmen would be subject to the influence and authority of the community at large. Finally, the third goal was to uphold the appearance of neutrality towards slavery in order to strengthen a bid for statehood. In order to accommodate these goals, the law instituted a scheme of quasi-indentured servitude and gradual emancipation for African slaves who immigrated to the territory with their masters.
    The article also included this little tidbit:

    For decades, the equestrian Utes had been raiding weaker Indian tribes for slaves (typically children) whom they then sold to Euro-American traders along the Old Spanish Trail or to other Native Americans.

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  • Vic Vega
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    Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
    Think about this: God took a rib from Adam's body to create Eve. Or did they really mean to say RIBonucleic acid?

    That makes more sense than some of the "root word" Sunday school lessons I have had over the years.

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  • SoCalCoug
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    Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, but the alien DNA might explain this...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3034876.html



    Maybe the "Elihim" aliens left a signature in our DNA. Weird stuff.
    Think about this: God took a rib from Adam's body to create Eve. Or did they really mean to say RIBonucleic acid?

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  • Omaha 680
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    Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
    Yeah, but the alien DNA might explain this...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3034876.html



    Maybe the "Elihim" aliens left a signature in our DNA. Weird stuff.
    Sounds like Scientology.

    Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk

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  • All-American
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    Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
    This talk belongs in the Bigfoot thread. Which begs the question. Where was Sasquatch on that chart?
    No it doesn't.

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  • Uncle Ted
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    Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
    Yeah, I read it in a little more detail. He's a little out there.

    Believe me, I've been on lots of crackpot sites, though, and that pdf is much better done than most crackpot websites.
    Yeah, but the alien DNA might explain this...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3034876.html

    ET Genetic Code May Be Found In Human DNA, According To Kazakhstan Scientists' Biological SETI Theory

    For those of us who wonder if earthlings are the only intelligent species in the Milky Way and beyond, try this theory on for size:


    Two scientists in Kazakhstan believe humans may have an extraterrestrial "stamp" embedded into our genetic code, a mathematical message that would not be explained by Darwin's theory of biological evolution.


    The scientists are suggesting that an advanced alien civilization "seeded" our galaxy eons ago with an ET signal that eventually found its way to Earth, implanting a genetic code into humans, reports Discovery.com.


    Physicist Vladimir I. shCherbak of al-Farabi Kazakh National University of Kazakhstan and astrobiologist Maxim A. Makukov of the Fesenkvo Astrophysical Institute refer to this far-out concept as "biological SETI."


    The results of their research -- "The 'Wow! signal' of the terrestrial genetic code" -- can be found in the peer-reviewed journal, Icarus.


    The title of their study, which was partially financed by the Ministry of Education and Science of the Republic of Kazakhstan, refers to an unexplained radio signal detected by SETI scientists in 1977.

    While SETI -- the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence -- relies on the use of radio telescopes and signal-processing technology to search the heavens for alien life, shCherbak and Makukov theorize there's a better way of detecting ETs.


    The Kazakhstan scientists believe there's a possible intelligent "signal" within the human genetic code.
    [...]
    Maybe the "Elihim" aliens left a signature in our DNA. Weird stuff.

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  • byu71
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    Originally posted by woot View Post
    Yikes. Never mind. I forgot that you don't even accept the basics of reality. You wouldn't care about the evolution of black skin.
    If I descended from primates your jab would be hurtful and I would respond in kind. The fact I am not going to tell you to kiss my butt is evidence I am the result of a higher law science doesn't comprehend.

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  • woot
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    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    That, my friend, is an APE. Monkeys would have been dog food.

    could a monkey even dare to do this?

    Of course it's an ape!

    (but it's also a monkey)

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  • creekster
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    Originally posted by woot View Post
    That's it! We're fighting.
    That, my friend, is an APE. Monkeys would have been dog food.

    could a monkey even dare to do this?

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  • woot
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    Originally posted by Topper View Post
    But some people are lesser apes, and others are cladistically related, hence greater apes.
    wat

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  • woot
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    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    Grrrr. You know what I mean.
    That's it! We're fighting.

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  • Topper
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    Originally posted by woot View Post
    I'm both! And so are apes!
    But some people are lesser apes, and others are cladistically related, hence greater apes.

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  • creekster
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    Originally posted by woot View Post
    I'm both! And so are apes!
    Grrrr. You know what I mean.

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  • woot
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    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    You're an APE!
    I'm both! And so are apes!

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  • creekster
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    You're an APE!

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