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  • Topper
    Pre-Historic Man
    • Nov 2011
    • 11764

    #361
    Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
    This annecdote will likely blow some minds, but I've actually met several Gypsies who are warm, decent people. Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.
    I've only met gypsies in Spain, and seen crime statistics relative to them. The Germans I knew feared and loathed the gypsies. Then there was the big scandal of the phoney lawsuit by a gypsy and her brother suing Disney, falsely accusing Disney of faulty protective measures.

    As I understand it, gypsies originate from India, are nomads and now roam Europe committing various assortment of crimes to continue their nomadic lifestyle in industrialized societies. The gypsy culture is one at odds with industrialized nations.

    Germans have one good thing named after gypsies, Zigeunersuppe, or Gypsy Soup.
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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    • Katy Lied
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 9435

      #362
      Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
      Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.
      One day in Sofia I snapped a picture of a filthy, barefoot street urchin girl who was very beautiful. Five minutes later I was set upon by two roma men, who demanded $25 US because I took a picture of their relative. I offered to delete the picture but they said I had already taken the picture, and I must pay. They followed me for a few blocks, trying to grab my arm and shoulder and demanding the money.

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      • old_gregg
        scaly man fish
        • Nov 2009
        • 16915

        #363
        Originally posted by clackamascoug View Post
        Gypsies have a bad reputation because they have earned a bad reputation.
        just like those damn jews. what a bunch of hook nosed crooks.
        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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        • Topper
          Pre-Historic Man
          • Nov 2011
          • 11764

          #364
          Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
          One day in Sofia I snapped a picture of a filthy, barefoot street urchin girl who was very beautiful. Five minutes later I was set upon by two roma men, who demanded $25 US because I took a picture of their relative. I offered to delete the picture but they said I had already taken the picture, and I must pay. They followed me for a few blocks, trying to grab my arm and shoulder and demanding the money.
          I had a similar experience in Cordoba, Spain. I was hounded by gypsies who grabbed my hand, read me a fortune I did not understand then demanded 20 Euros. After I failed to pay, I imagine they spouted some gypsy curses.

          I have very good friends from Ruse, who want me to visit.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • Topper
            Pre-Historic Man
            • Nov 2011
            • 11764

            #365
            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            just like those damn jews. what a bunch of hook nosed crooks.
            I know it sounds similar but it's not. By saying gypsies, you are referring to the lifestyle. I had no idea that they are kinda a race until much later. If I say Colombian drug cartel, nobody thinks of that as being racist. Think of gypsies as the purveyors of crime throughout Europe and to a smaller extent the US. They are organized crime groups with nomadic communities.
            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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            • Solon
              Lost in the flood
              • Nov 2008
              • 5747

              #366
              Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
              This annecdote will likely blow some minds, but I've actually met several Gypsies who are warm, decent people. Some remain friends of mine to this day from my days spent kicking stray dogs in Bulgaria. We share the same biology, regardless of ideology. Believe me when I say to you, I hope the Gypsies love their children too.
              A gypsy named Shoon did me a great service once when I was a missionary in southern France.
              We got to know him pretty well. He claimed to be a "businessman" even though he couldn't read or write.
              He also had a trailer full of televisions that he was holding "for a cousin."
              I really liked him, although I never went to visit his camp after dark.

              FWIW, the term "gypsy" derives from the old belief that they came from Egypt. It's probably a derogatory term.
              I think they prefer Roma or Romani.
              "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
              -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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              • old_gregg
                scaly man fish
                • Nov 2009
                • 16915

                #367
                Originally posted by Topper View Post
                I know it sounds similar but it's not. By saying gypsies, you are referring to the lifestyle. I had no idea that they are kinda a race until much later. If I say Colombian drug cartel, nobody thinks of that as being racist. Think of gypsies as the purveyors of crime throughout Europe and to a smaller extent the US. They are organized crime groups with nomadic communities.
                the romani are an ethnic group.
                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                • byu71
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22070

                  #368
                  thanks for the handy reference. As I suspected I learned nothing new or startling.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69457

                    #369
                    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    thanks for the handy reference. As I suspected I learned nothing new or startling.
                    That's about what I expected too.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Topper
                      Pre-Historic Man
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11764

                      #370
                      Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                      the romani are an ethnic group.
                      I know they are now, but didn't consider them an ethnic group back when I lived in Germany. I disliked them not for their ethnicity but for their tendency to be involved in criminal activity. Most Europeans I know, even high minded, intellectuals, have the same opinion of the romani. "Their part of town" was a place I did not visit for fear of my personal safety.

                      If you wish to escape with your wallet and perhaps your life unharmed, I recommend you not visit the gypsies during the night.
                      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                      • Topper
                        Pre-Historic Man
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11764

                        #371
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        thanks for the handy reference. As I suspected I learned nothing new or startling.
                        It is not anything new, but a startling transition for an organization which had BRM running around justifying the policy. An apology to those negatively affected or shunned might have been better, but given the tendencies of leadership it is certainly a huge step forward. Kudos to them for producing that. Transparency is a good thing.
                        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                        • Color Me Badd Fan
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 12519

                          #372
                          Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                          just like those damn jews. what a bunch of hook nosed crooks.
                          You obviously have never been around gypsies.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • byu71
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22070

                            #373
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            That's about what I expected too.
                            Us intellectuals think a lot a like when it comes to these things.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69457

                              #374
                              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              Us intellectuals think a lot a like when it comes to these things.
                              Dang it. You don't even get my insults anymore.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • old_gregg
                                scaly man fish
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 16915

                                #375
                                Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                                You obviously have never been around gypsies.
                                i have, in fact. i'm a man of the oppressed minority. i even tipped the negro boy that shined my shoes the other day. it's a shame that his biologically inferior cognitive capability so limits his potential.
                                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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