BKP on the Priesthood Ban

[Uncle Ted]

Footnote:

9. In the same session of the territorial legislature in which Brigham Young announced the priesthood ordination policy, the territorial legislature legalized black “servitude.” Brigham Young and the legislators perceived “servitude” to be a more humane alternative to slavery. Christopher B. Rich Jr., “The True Policy for Utah: Servitude, Slavery, and ‘An Act in Relation to Service,’” Utah Historical Quarterly 80, no.1 (Winter 2012): 54–74.

See... There was no slavery in the Utah territory. Just "servitude".

[pellegrino]

this is a positive development. hopefully the next step is an apology.

[Non Sequitur]

this is a positive development. hopefully the next step is an apology.

Is less negative the same as positive?

[Clark Addison]

I need to shoot the link of this to a certain ex-bishop of mine, who was certain (and vocal) of the correlation between race and pre-earth valiance. I was unable to convince him otherwise. I wonder if this article would. I actually kind of doubt it. Like DS7 on CB, he would, I think, believe that the church is doing this simply for PR reasons, and that it is a sham.

DS7 is already starting the good fight:

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=11699780

it's always a bad idea to try and go back and re-write history...

by definition, if you have a "chosen race"...isn't everyone else "unchosen?"

that was the first line they tried to blur out...the idea that blacks wouldn't receive the priesthood "in mortality"...with this latest statement, it seems they're trying to walk back the idea that genesis 9 is just "a fable" and all the statements from the prophets and apostles were "uniformed."

do you know of any other church who teaches anything about lineage? it's even an important part of every faithful member's patriarchal blessing. it's an important part of the bible...pages and pages of who begat who...if lineage doesn't matter, why do we spend so much time doing genealogical work? none of the other christian churches teach anything about it...cause it's not important to them and they don't understand anything about it...to them, life is just one giant "birth lottery."

there are no accidents.

[Northwestcoug]

I was surprised at this article. It's a good step. It's not an apology, which I think is needed. Not only to blacks, but to generations of good members who needed to abandon their own sense of morality because the church told them God needed them to.

I would have liked them to be clear that it wasn't just theories, but church doctrine in every sense of the word. But I think the church did about as good as job as it could have done, given that it still needs members to treat leaders' words as revelation.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

DS7 is already starting the good fight:

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=11699780

ds7 sounds like the kind of person I rather not be around. I'm glad I don't participate in CB anymore.

[Jeff Lebowski]

DS7 is already starting the good fight:

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=11699780

Somehow an "oh brother" just doesn't seem strong enough.

[Solon]

"disavows" is a pretty strong word in comparison to the regular blasé vagaries these documents usually proclaim.
Kudos to the LDS church.

[Topper]

"disavows" is a pretty strong word in comparison to the regular blasé vagaries these documents usually proclaim.
Kudos to the LDS church.

The document is a huge step forward for the organization.

[Uncle Ted]

this is a positive development. hopefully the next step is an apology.

While this is positive I find it still seem to "white wash" or downplay a lot of the church's history on this subject, IMHO. (See some example above.) A public apology for all the crap people in leadership and public positions in the church have said would much more of a positive step. And Randy Bott should be present for that public apology.

[pellegrino]

While this is positive I find it still seem to "white wash" or downplay a lot of the church's history on this subject, IMHO. (See some example above.) A public apology for all the crap people in leadership and public positions in the church have said would much more of a positive step. And Randy Bott should be present for that public apology.

I agree completely, but at least this vindicates Dr. Leo Marvin.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I agree completely, but at least this vindicates Dr. Leo Marvin.

Nicely done.

[Uncle Ted]

I agree completely, but at least this vindicates Dr. Leo Marvin.

Yes, indeed.

[Moliere]

I learned in church today that the PH ban was started by Joseph smith and that no black people were ordained prior to 1978.

[Bo Diddley]

I agree completely, but at least this vindicates Dr. Leo Marvin.

Look everybody, I'm not wrong often but when I am, I admit it. I mean it. I would like you all to accept my apology.