mormonstories.org

[creekster]

Every great cause begins as a movement, then becomes a business, and finally degenerates into a racket.

Looks like MS is transitioning to stage 2.

You think this is a great cause? I think it might be a helpful group, but in my mind it falls far short of a great cause.

[SuperGabers]

You think this is a great cause? I think it might be a helpful group, but in my mind it falls far short of a great cause.

There are more than a handful of folks out there who have lost marriages and relationships over leaving the church. It is a great cause when they have a group of people they can fall back on for support and to help them figure things out.

[lambdacoug]

And we wonder why people think we worship Joseph Smith

In my SP parent's house, pictures and statues of JS outnumber pictures and statues of Jesus. An anecdote to be sure, but interesting nonetheless.

[creekster]

There are more than a handful of folks out there who have lost marriages and relationships over leaving the church. It is a great cause when they have a group of people they can fall back on for support and to help them figure things out.

People lose marriages for a variety of reasons, social and otherwise. Like I said, I have no doubt that MS is a helpful group for those people who feel that sort of need in the Mormon context. But to me, and I freely admit this is just my opinion, MS is not a great cause. Gandhi promoted a great cause. Jesus promoted a great cause. Martin Luther King was a great cause. John Dehlin has put together a helpful group.

[lambdacoug]

There are more than a handful of folks out there who have lost marriages and relationships over leaving the church. It is a great cause when they have a group of people they can fall back on for support and to help them figure things out.

exmormon.org is full of such stories. I lost my marriage and religion at the same time, I didn't lose one because of the other. However, I was a hair's breadth from being disowned for leaving the mormon church. I have several BYU friends that have lost marriages because they expressed doubt and/or left. I think places like MS that help people realize that there are real, valid reasons to leave/question the mormon church are worth their weight in gold and then some. MS is too mormony for me, but it is a very worthwhile and great resource.

[UtahDan]

You think this is a great cause? I think it might be a helpful group, but in my mind it falls far short of a great cause.

I don't disagree but it sort of invites a discussion of whether Mormonism is a great cause. I'm not sure eithe analysis is helpful.

[creekster]

I don't disagree but it sort of invites a discussion of whether Mormonism is a great cause. I'm not sure either analysis is helpful.

I agree it does invite that question. I considered that before posting. I think from a mormon's POV restoring the gospel of christ is a great cause. From a secular POV I think that Mormonism is pretty much rolled in to christianity and so, on its own, is not a great cause. IS it a helpful question? it is about as helpful as most of the htings we disucss here, I would guess.

[SuperGabers]

People lose marriages for a variety of reasons, social and otherwise. Like I said, I have no doubt that MS is a helpful group for those people who feel that sort of need in the Mormon context. But to me, and I freely admit this is just my opinion, MS is not a great cause. Gandhi promoted a great cause. Jesus promoted a great cause. Martin Luther King was a great cause. John Dehlin has put together a helpful group.

Okay. I will go with you on that. Oh course, it is relative to the person whom his community has helped... But give him a few more years to hit the top 10.

I don't disagree but it sort of invites a discussion of whether Mormonism is a great cause. I'm not sure eithe analysis is helpful.

I think Mormonism is a great cause. I think for many Mormons, it is a good thing and helps center people.

[UtahDan]

Okay. I will go with you on that. Oh course, it is relative to the person whom his community has helped... But give him a few more years to hit the top 10.



I think Mormonism is a great cause. I think for many Mormons, it is a good thing and helps center people.

You think Cafe Rio is great cause.

[lambdacoug]

I think Mormonism is a great cause. I think for many Mormons, it is a good thing and helps center people.

I think the only great cause associated with mormonism is opposing it. Shocker, I know...

[SuperGabers]

You think Cafe Rio is great cause.

OMG is it EVER!

I think the only great cause associated with mormonism is opposing it. Shocker, I know...

HA! Brother Atheistcougar, I hope you don't live in Utah.

[lambdacoug]

HA! Brother Atheistcougar, I hope you don't live in Utah.

No. I do live in Zion though. Jackson County, MO that is.

[wally]

I hope that I don’t come across as judgmental , but here it goes anyway :

I have only peripherally observed mormonstories. I have only listened to half of one podcast. It strikes me as a thing that very helpful for some people, but not me. In general it lacks appeal to me because the whole effort appears (maybe I’m wrong) as a sort of an overly overt intellectual struggle at the tippy-top of Maslow’s pyramid. It is hard for me to take seriously. One of the best things my mission did for me was to open my eyes to how the vast majority of people live, and it is not near the top of Maslow’s pyramid. It is not even at half way up.

This conversation about how Mormonstories can only go on if people get off their wallet, well, I agree with MBN in that it is sort of distasteful. It smells of Ira Glass complaining about needing donations for one of the most widely listened to podcasts around or “friends of scouting.” I would much rather donate my money to a non-profit like “Water for People” than any of the above. But that's just me.

The original feeling I got from Dehlin was that he started this as a grass-roots thing he was passionate about. Maybe he has lost his passion and it needs to go away? Or maybe someone more affluent with more free time needs to step up and carry the torch in his stead.

Just my two cents.

[Moliere]

I don't disagree but it sort of invites a discussion of whether Mormonism is a great cause. I'm not sure eithe analysis is helpful.

I disagree. Creeksters post was silly. If anything dehlins cause is important and great to some, not the world, but some.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You think this is a great cause? I think it might be a helpful group, but in my mind it falls far short of a great cause.

It's a famous line. Haven't you heard it before? (Geez. Nitpicking lawyers)

I have listened to quite a few of the MS podcasts. Many of them are very good. It seems to be losing a feeling of balance/neutrality that it used to have and I am troubled with the thought of it turning in to a quasi-business with paid leaders, regional conferences, etc. That may be great for others, but it is not for me.