The official 181st Annual GC Thread

[FMCoug]

Like Elder Cook just said, we don't know the unique circumstances of every situation. You have no idea what is going on with Davies enough to make any sort of judgement. Neither do I.

Neither does anybody who is prideful about "sticking to our principles".

[LA Ute]

Like Elder Cook just said, we don't know the unique circumstances of every situation. You have no idea what is going on with Davies enough to make any sort of judgment. Neither do I.

If there's one thing I have learned as an adult in the church, it is this. It can't be stated strongly enough. Only the individuals directly involved know what is going on.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

If they ever decide to add a Present Eyring role in the BoM play, I suggest they have Alan Arkin play it.

[Surfah]

If they ever decide to add a Present Eyring role in the BoM play, I suggest they have Alan Arkin play it.

He'd be perfect wouldn't he?

[FMCoug]

If there's one thing I have learned as an adult in the church, it is this. It can't be stated strongly enough. Only the individuals directly involved know what is going on.

My point is more about the attitudes of members towards the situation, not the situation itself.

But I agree with both you and LiveCoug.

[Moliere]

There is undoubtedly some truth to this. But you have to admit that we are a very justice, works focused people. Take Davies' for example. If the overall theme of members discussing it were the young man, his salvation, the repentance process, etc. I might agree. But overwhelmingly, whenever it was discussed it was about "sticking to our principles". Which apparently are very justice-focused.

From a church perspective Davies is still a member and he's even still enrolled at the church sponsored school. The only thing that bugged me was him not being able to play ball.

It seems that from a church perspective mercy is being shown.

[FMCoug]

From a church perspective Davies is still a member and he's even still enrolled at the church sponsored school. The only thing that bugged me was him not being able to play ball.

It seems that from a church perspective mercy is being shown.

I don't disagree with that. I don't know the situation so you may be right. Again, my point is how about individual members approach these things.

In any case, the last thing we need is another Davies' thread. It was just an example. Prop 8 is another. And I'm not even referring to the church's stance. I'm referring to how many members seem to have used it as an excuse to let their homophobia run rampant. Hate the sin, not the sinner, seems not have applied in many cases.

[Viking]

Why is it that Mormonism in practice seems so different than General Conference talks? I hear these talks and then I think of stuff like the Davie's incident, Prop 8, and the justice/fire and brimstone focus of so many Mormons and I don't get it.

The Church of BYU is not the church of Jesus Cristo

I will be live blogging conference from Leblon beach.

[Portland Ute]

I couldn't find conference on Lodge Net.

I can see the ocean from my hotel window.

It's cloudy, cool and breezy.

Suze Orman is on PBS with her "The Money Class".

I think I'm getting as much good advice from her as I would have from conference.

As I write this, I remember that I could probably watch conference on-line. Never had to do that before, so I didn't think of it. Maybe I'll watch afternoon session.

It's too bad that the Priesthood Session is super, dooper secret and can't be accessed on-line.

[snowcat]

The Church of BYU is not the church of Jesus Cristo

I will be live blogging conference from Leblon beach.

I love, love, love Rio. I need to get back soon.

[Moliere]

I'm out this session since I'm at a baseball game. Hopefully they used the break to remove those red flowers that were visible over the speakers left shoulder. The disproportionate color scheme was really bugging me.

[Parrot Head]

I came in in the middle of Packer's talk and heard him talking about William Tyndale. I thought this sounded familiar and wondered if it was a repeat of a previous session. Thanks to the Corpus, I found that he himself told the story in Conference in 2005. But more recently Elder Christofferson talked about Tyndale -- in last April's Conference.

[pellegrino]

I came in in the middle of Packer's talk and heard him talking about William Tyndale. I thought this sounded familiar and wondered if it was a repeat of a previous session. Thanks to the Corpus, I found that he himself told the story in Conference in 2005. But more recently Elder Christofferson talked about Tyndale -- in last April's Conference.

he also recycled the story about the mother dying in childbirth. I haven't looked it up, but I'm quite sure he's used that before.

[Donuthole]

I came in in the middle of Packer's talk and heard him talking about William Tyndale. I thought this sounded familiar and wondered if it was a repeat of a previous session. Thanks to the Corpus, I found that he himself told the story in Conference in 2005. But more recently Elder Christofferson talked about Tyndale -- in last April's Conference.

I walked in and Packer was talking about how we need to refer to ourselves as "Latter-Day Saints" and not "mormons". I thought they gave up on that crap back when they started mormon.org, but I guess not.

[Viking]

I walked in and Packer was talking about how we need to refer to ourselves as "Latter-Day Saints" and not "mormons". I thought they gave up on that crap back when they started mormon.org, but I guess not.

Both names suck.

How about Christians?