Originally posted by Mormon Red Death
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Two Hour Church - Lets Make this happen
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LOL. I have 5 or 6 hour church, which is less than it used to be.
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So then why are you a debbie downer on this? Unless of course you like long church days.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostLOL. I have 5 or 6 hour church, which is less than it used to be."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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My Church is currently 1.5 hours. Not sure what your problem is.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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It would work in my area. Texans aren't as judgmental. Heck, even my bishopric avoids SS and often times they are just hanging out in the hallways. Some people in my area have a 35 minute drive to our church (as they pass 2 other church buildings). On mutual nights the parents of those kids just sit in the foyer and read. Now at least we'd given them something churchy to do for that 1.5 hours.Originally posted by RC Vikings View PostMost of what you are proposing sounds good but this won't work. The church and neighbors and people in the ward don't understand voluntarily. It may say voluntarily but in their eyes if you don't attend you might has well be considered inactive."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I went on a CB tear a couple days ago about Sunday School. I think having it next to Sacrament meeting has neutered the teaching. SS has become another worship service. We need to put the "school" back into Sunday School. Once it becomes more of a "school" instead of another "sacrament meeting" people might consider attending again.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View PostNo...we aren't just replacing the hour later in the week. We are getting rid of it.
Sacrament meeting 50 Minutes
10 minute Break
20 minute break out for PH and RS, Young Women
40 minutes combined Sunday School / PH, Relief Society.
There is no doctrine that we have to have essentially two different sunday school classes. One where its coed and one where its not. Just combine them. As for Primary, you get a 1/2 hour for singing time and 1/2 hour for a lesson."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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I have two hour church right now. I hate EQ and find it to be the spiritual lowlight of my week. So I do something else. I told this to a member of the bishopric who is a close friend the other day.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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I'm skeptical about a grass-roots effort to change the length of services and I'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View PostSo then why are you a debbie downer on this? Unless of course you like long church days.
I'm perfectly fine with 2 hour services. Alternate weeks between SS and Priesthood/RS.
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I'm not skeptical. 2 hours of primary every Sunday for a year was the turning point for me in church. Before that, I enjoyed it. Since then, I haven't.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.
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While you're at it:
You do know that FHE used to be once a month (on the evening of Fast Sundays).We all trust our own unorthodoxies.
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Just admit that you have been gunning for me on all these message boards!!!Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostI'm skeptical about a grass-roots effort to change the length of services and I'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.
I'm perfectly fine with 2 hour services. Alternate weeks between SS and Priesthood/RS.
"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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Other than sports allegiances, I can't recall butting heads with you before.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View PostJust admit that you have been gunning for me on all these message boards!!!

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I'm sure if we work at it hard enough, we can reduce all of our worship activities down to only having to wear CTR rings.
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