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  • Indy Coug
    Heartless Bastard
    • Dec 2008
    • 18747

    #16
    Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    We get it... you are part of the 1% who doesn't want 2 hour church.
    LOL. I have 5 or 6 hour church, which is less than it used to be.
    Everything in life is an approximation.

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    • Mormon Red Death
      BYU Delenda Est
      • Nov 2008
      • 8077

      #17
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      LOL. I have 5 or 6 hour church, which is less than it used to be.
      So then why are you a debbie downer on this? Unless of course you like long church days.
      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #18
        My Church is currently 1.5 hours. Not sure what your problem is.
        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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        • Moliere
          One man.....one pie
          • Oct 2009
          • 27845

          #19
          Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
          Most of what you are proposing sounds good but this won't work. The church and neighbors and people in the ward don't understand voluntarily. It may say voluntarily but in their eyes if you don't attend you might has well be considered inactive.
          It would work in my area. Texans aren't as judgmental. Heck, even my bishopric avoids SS and often times they are just hanging out in the hallways. Some people in my area have a 35 minute drive to our church (as they pass 2 other church buildings). On mutual nights the parents of those kids just sit in the foyer and read. Now at least we'd given them something churchy to do for that 1.5 hours.
          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • wally
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            • Jun 2010
            • 4137

            #20
            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            I'm on board as long as I can keep my calling as Sunday School President. I don't think it would have much impact on my current level of effort
            Your new title will be "ward executive librarian."

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            • Moliere
              One man.....one pie
              • Oct 2009
              • 27845

              #21
              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              No...we aren't just replacing the hour later in the week. We are getting rid of it.

              Sacrament meeting 50 Minutes
              10 minute Break
              20 minute break out for PH and RS, Young Women
              40 minutes combined Sunday School / PH, Relief Society.

              There is no doctrine that we have to have essentially two different sunday school classes. One where its coed and one where its not. Just combine them. As for Primary, you get a 1/2 hour for singing time and 1/2 hour for a lesson.
              I went on a CB tear a couple days ago about Sunday School. I think having it next to Sacrament meeting has neutered the teaching. SS has become another worship service. We need to put the "school" back into Sunday School. Once it becomes more of a "school" instead of another "sacrament meeting" people might consider attending again.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Pheidippides
                Liberal Feminazi
                • Nov 2008
                • 14759

                #22
                I have two hour church right now. I hate EQ and find it to be the spiritual lowlight of my week. So I do something else. I told this to a member of the bishopric who is a close friend the other day.
                Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                • Indy Coug
                  Heartless Bastard
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 18747

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                  So then why are you a debbie downer on this? Unless of course you like long church days.
                  I'm skeptical about a grass-roots effort to change the length of services and I'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.

                  I'm perfectly fine with 2 hour services. Alternate weeks between SS and Priesthood/RS.
                  Everything in life is an approximation.

                  http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                  • Jacob
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 6801

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                    I'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.
                    I'm not skeptical. 2 hours of primary every Sunday for a year was the turning point for me in church. Before that, I enjoyed it. Since then, I haven't.

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                    • Sleeping in EQ
                      Philosopher of Men
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 4188

                      #25
                      While you're at it:

                      You do know that FHE used to be once a month (on the evening of Fast Sundays).
                      We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                      • Mormon Red Death
                        BYU Delenda Est
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8077

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                        I'm skeptical about a grass-roots effort to change the length of services and I'm skeptical about the long-term additional happiness of the membership at large by scaling Sunday services back. The displaced unhappiness will just take up residence somewhere else.

                        I'm perfectly fine with 2 hour services. Alternate weeks between SS and Priesthood/RS.
                        Just admit that you have been gunning for me on all these message boards!!!

                        "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                        • Indy Coug
                          Heartless Bastard
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18747

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                          Just admit that you have been gunning for me on all these message boards!!!

                          Other than sports allegiances, I can't recall butting heads with you before.
                          Everything in life is an approximation.

                          http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                          • Indy Coug
                            Heartless Bastard
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 18747

                            #28
                            I'm sure if we work at it hard enough, we can reduce all of our worship activities down to only having to wear CTR rings.
                            Everything in life is an approximation.

                            http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                            • Brian
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2164

                              #29
                              After I got an iphone, church became 2 hours, and 1 hour on the back row of highpriests catching up on news, and working on my stick golfer short game.
                              I intend to live forever.
                              So far, so good.
                              --Steven Wright

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                              • Clark Addison
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10301

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                                I'm sure if we work at it hard enough, we can reduce all of our worship activities down to only having to wear CTR rings.
                                Any opposed, by the same sign?

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