Two Hour Church - Lets Make this happen

[Mormon Red Death]

My biggest pet peeve with the church is that we don't have 2 hour church. My theory is that the old guys in charge never had to control 3 kids under 6 for three hours. They were always up on the stand or in other wards. Not to mention they are old now and nothing better to do but go to church for 3 hours on sunday.

Well back to the point at hand. How do we get two hour church to happen? Who do we petition? Don't give me this shit about "My sister's brother in law's best friend's nephew's ward is doing this as a trial now". Lets hear ideas on how we can influence the gerontocracy to change.

BTW It can work easily it doesn't need a trial. They changed to the block schedule without trials.

[Mormon Red Death]

Aspire to loftier callings and then once you've accomplished that, force your viewpoints upon others.

Come on... I don't want a lofty calling I just want two hour church.

[Indy Coug]

Make a business case for cramming 4+ units into one building in high-density LDS population centers. Show how much money the church will save by not having to acquire land and building chapels to maintain the 3 unit/chapel ratio.

[Moliere]

Sacrament meeting - 55 minutes
Break - 10 minutes
Priesthood/RS Meeting - 55 minutes

BAM!

Do we really need two adult speakers and youth speakers in Sacrament meeting? How much quality is lost in having people speak/teach too often? I think PH/RS is a must once a week to allow for quorum business and then to give a general lesson/instruction. Sunday School should be moved to mutual night. That way while the kids are having mutual the adults can attend Sunday School voluntarily. The better the teacher, the better the lesson delivered, the better the attendance. This gives an incentive to call teachers that care and prepare.

You could also do primary signing time/cub scouts/activity days that same night. That would put almost hte entire family at teh church on mutual night. Of course, you could no longer schedule three wards to share one mutual night, but that is a different story.

[YOhio]

I'm on board as long as I can keep my calling as Sunday School President. I don't think it would have much impact on my current level of effort

[wally]

This is a slippery slope you tread on my friend. For once you acheive your goal of 2 hour church, an initiative for 1 hour church will be just around the corner. From there, initiatives to make garments cheaper or *gasp* even unnecessary alltogether. Then, initiatives to reduce tithing, to slacken the WOW, and reduce the seriousness of premarital hoochie-koochie will follow.

Your initiative could reduce us to Community of Christ II, so think this through first.

[RC Vikings]

Sacrament meeting - 55 minutes
Break - 10 minutes
Priesthood/RS Meeting - 55 minutes

Sunday School should be moved to mutual night. That way while the kids are having mutual the adults can attend Sunday School voluntarily. The better the teacher, the better the lesson delivered, the better the attendance. This gives an incentive to call teachers that care and prepare.

Most of what you are proposing sounds good but this won't work. The church and neighbors and people in the ward don't understand voluntarily. It may say voluntarily but in their eyes if you don't attend you might has well be considered inactive.

[Mormon Red Death]

This is a slippery slope you tread on my friend. For once you acheive your goal of 2 hour church, an initiative for 1 hour church will be just around the corner. From there, initiatives to make garments cheaper or *gasp* even unnecessary alltogether. Then, initiatives to reduce tithing, to slacken the WOW, and reduce the seriousness of premarital hoochie-koochie will follow.

Your initiative could reduce us to Community of Christ II, so think this through first.

I've thought it through.. I am willing to take that risk for one less hour of church each week.

[wally]

I've thought it through.. I am willing to take that risk for one less hour of church each week.

OK then.

BTW, I would like to sign your petition.

[Mormon Red Death]

Sacrament meeting - 55 minutes
Break - 10 minutes
Priesthood/RS Meeting - 55 minutes

BAM!

Do we really need two adult speakers and youth speakers in Sacrament meeting? How much quality is lost in having people speak/teach too often? I think PH/RS is a must once a week to allow for quorum business and then to give a general lesson/instruction. Sunday School should be moved to mutual night. That way while the kids are having mutual the adults can attend Sunday School voluntarily. The better the teacher, the better the lesson delivered, the better the attendance. This gives an incentive to call teachers that care and prepare.

You could also do primary signing time/cub scouts/activity days that same night. That would put almost hte entire family at teh church on mutual night. Of course, you could no longer schedule three wards to share one mutual night, but that is a different story.

No...we aren't just replacing the hour later in the week. We are getting rid of it.

Sacrament meeting 50 Minutes
10 minute Break
20 minute break out for PH and RS, Young Women
40 minutes combined Sunday School / PH, Relief Society.

There is no doctrine that we have to have essentially two different sunday school classes. One where its coed and one where its not. Just combine them. As for Primary, you get a 1/2 hour for singing time and 1/2 hour for a lesson.

[DrumNFeather]

No...we aren't just replacing the hour later in the week. We are getting rid of it.

Sacrament meeting 50 Minutes
10 minute Break
20 minute break out for PH and RS, Young Women
40 minutes combined Sunday School / PH, Relief Society.

There is no doctrine that we have to have essentially two different sunday school classes. One where its coed and one where its not. Just combine them. As for Primary, you get a 1/2 hour for singing time and 1/2 hour for a lesson.

How many of the less actives on the board do you think this would bring back? My guess would be right around 0.

I was talking with a guy in my ward about 2 hour church the other day, we agreed that our ward would be a good fit to pilot it.

[Mormon Red Death]

How many of the less actives on the board do you think this would bring back? My guess would be right around 0.

I was talking with a guy in my ward about 2 hour church the other day, we agreed that our ward would be a good fit to pilot it.

Yes but how many actives would it make that much happier?

[Indy Coug]

Yes but how many actives would it make that much happier?

The happiness would be short-lived.

[Mormon Red Death]

How many of the less actives on the board do you think this would bring back? My guess would be right around 0.

I was talking with a guy in my ward about 2 hour church the other day, we agreed that our ward would be a good fit to pilot it.

Why would we need to pilot it? Come on Monson. Make it happen.

[Mormon Red Death]

The happiness would be short-lived.

We get it... you are part of the 1% who doesn't want 2 hour church.