The Next Mormon Schism

[wuapinmon]

Thank you, Karl Malone.

Ask yourself, "Self, is wuap being serious?" The answer rhymes with NO. And there's no need to be hurtful like that. I've been called a lot of bad things in my day, but calling me a Jazz player's name is pretty low, even for you.

[il Padrino Ute]

Ask yourself, "Self, is wuap being serious?" The answer rhymes with NO. And there's no need to be hurtful like that. I've been called a lot of bad things in my day, but calling me a Jazz player's name is pretty low, even for you.

I could have called you a Costa Rican.

[Spicy McHaggis]

Reality vs dogma will cause it.

[Sleeping in EQ]

I don't know about a schism, but progressive Mormons were held down and kicked over the weekend.

I'll be honest. I felt like my own Church was telling me to leave. I'm sure I haven't had a worse experience at GC in my entire life. I'm trying to look for the good--Elder Oaks said some encouraging things--but it isn't easy.

The Cougars in a tail spin doesn't help either. I'm not kidding.

[UtahDan]

I don't know about a schism, but progressive Mormons were held down and kicked over the weekend.

I'll be honest. I felt like my own Church was telling me to leave. I'm sure I haven't had a worse experience at GC in my entire life. I'm trying to look for the good--Elder Oaks said some encouraging things--but it isn't easy.

The Cougars in a tail spin doesn't help either. I'm not kidding.

I thought the addiction talk was very positive. It also doesn't hurt to remind yourself that it is your church too.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I think most physicians will leave the church. The Handbook of instructions will hang by a thread, but a family practitioner and Utah med school grad from the southern regions will save it. This is known as the White Coat Prophecy.

Dang, don't let my wife read this...talk about pressure

[SeattleUte]

I don't know about a schism, but progressive Mormons were held down and kicked over the weekend.

I'll be honest. I felt like my own Church was telling me to leave. I'm sure I haven't had a worse experience at GC in my entire life. I'm trying to look for the good--Elder Oaks said some encouraging things--but it isn't easy.

The Cougars in a tail spin doesn't help either. I'm not kidding.

Mormonism's reason for being and attraction to the bulk of its active members has always been reaction to and resistance to secularism and associated progressive attitudes. If Mormonism stops being this and becomes assimilated it will be no more.

I think you would be better off outside Mormonism, and but for your long patience with the institution and unfailingly respectful and politic interactions with the institution, the institution would not mourn your leaving.

[LA Ute]

Dang, don't let my wife read this...talk about pressure

I was wondering when you would come forth.

[Green Monstah]

Mormonism's reason for being and attraction to the bulk of its active members has always been reaction to and resistance to secularism and associated progressive attitudes. If Mormonism stops being this and becomes assimilated it will be no more.

I think you would be better off outside Mormonism, and but for your long patience with the institution and unfailingly respectful and politic interactions with the institution, the institution would not mourn your leaving.

I respectfully disagree to the extent that your use of the term "institution" includes its members (which may not be the case). There are some who would not mind seeing the door hit you on the way out, but there are others (many of whom you don't know about) who sympathize with you and appreciate what faith you have left and your exercise of it.

I've stopped watching GC. It's in large part a waste of my time. Same shit as six months ago.

[Green Monstah]

Mormonism's reason for being and attraction to the bulk of its active members has always been reaction to and resistance to secularism and associated progressive attitudes. If Mormonism stops being this and becomes assimilated it will be no more.

I think you would be better off outside Mormonism, and but for your long patience with the institution and unfailingly respectful and politic interactions with the institution, the institution would not mourn your leaving.

Again, I disagree. Mormon history is too complicated to paint with such a broad brush. I would agree that after the turn of the century your assertion may in fact be true. I will also grant that Mormonisms attraction has been a reaction and resistance to the status quo (but more along the lines of the ecclisastical establishment and not the political or academic).

[Levin]

I don't know about a schism, but progressive Mormons were held down and kicked over the weekend.

I'll be honest. I felt like my own Church was telling me to leave. I'm sure I haven't had a worse experience at GC in my entire life. I'm trying to look for the good--Elder Oaks said some encouraging things--but it isn't easy.

The Cougars in a tail spin doesn't help either. I'm not kidding.

Cue IndyCoug's lecture about taking responsibility for your own faith and not blaming BYU football for its ill state.

[Indy Coug]

Cue IndyCoug's lecture about taking responsibility for your own faith and not blaming BYU football for its ill state.

Ummm, yeah.

[Viking]

There's a decent chance that you could see a serious hardline approach with a binary outcome: you're onboard or you're out.

[Sleeping in EQ]

I thought the addiction talk was very positive. It also doesn't hurt to remind yourself that it is your church too.

I'll be sure to give the addiction talk close attention. Thanks, UD.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Cue IndyCoug's lecture about taking responsibility for your own faith and not blaming BYU football for its ill state.

I'm not blaming BYU football and I always take responsibility for my faith. I'm just lamenting the lack of joy on Friday night, followed by the disaster that was GC.