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[YOUTUBE]kDrqNQwIdRc[/YOUTUBE]"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla -
Here is the approach that makes the most sense, in my opinion. You teach your boys: Don't look at porn -- you tell them all the reasons porn is bad. Then tell them that if they ever DO look at porn, not to talk about it with people at Church, just STOP looking at it or look at it as little as possible and don't talk about it.Originally posted by scottie View Post
Another thought: I wonder if the problem with excessive and highly frequent porn consumption in the Church is based on the thought among believing members that if you've decided to sin, and if looking at ANY amount of soft-core porn is sinning, then you might as well go all-in. This is different from the worldly, non-religious view that everybody looks at porn once in a while, but it's unseemly and weird to get too involved in porn.
And to LA Ute (even though I know you have supposedly bowed out of this thread
), I know a 50-year old active LDS man, college professor, father of 8, who confessed to his wife and bishop that he occasionally looked at porn. His wife told the entire ward and all relatives that her husband was "addicted" to porn and filed for divorce within a few months. When this guy wanted to speak at his son's missionary farewell at the time he was told he wasn't worthy.
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I was speaking with a friend the other day and he told me about this couple who was assigned to speak at every ward in their stake. The man was a porn addict and he was telling his story in every ward.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostHere is the approach that makes the most sense, in my opinion. You teach your boys: Don't look at porn -- you tell them all the reasons porn is bad. Then tell them that if they ever DO look at porn, not to talk about it with people at Church, just STOP looking at it or look at it as little as possible and don't talk about it.
Another thought: I wonder if the problem with excessive and highly frequent porn consumption in the Church is based on the thought among believing members that if you've decided to sin, and if looking at ANY amount of soft-core porn is sinning, then you might as well go all-in. This is different from the worldly, non-religious view that everybody looks at porn once in a while, but it's unseemly and weird to get too involved in porn.
And to LA Ute (even though I know you have supposedly bowed out of this thread ), I know a 50-year old active LDS man, college professor, father of 8, who confessed to his wife and bishop that he occasionally looked at porn. His wife told the entire ward and all relatives that her husband was "addicted" to porn and filed for divorce within a few months. When this guy wanted to speak at his son's missionary farewell at the time he was told he wasn't worthy.
First thought I had was "It's probably the penance his wife made him pay so she won't leave him." I must be really cynical."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam CarollaComment
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Funny. Yeah, I would have thought the same thing.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
That would be an entertaining talk, actually.Comment
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She looks like Lyla Gerrity (no idea how to spell first or last name) from Friday Night Lights. Yes, pretty visually stunning...Originally posted by Portland Ute View PostComment
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I have never understood the underlying thinking...
If you lust after a woman in your heart, it is as if you have committed the sin.
Well then shit...if that is the case then I might as well try to hit it if I'm already busted for thinking about it.
That is why that thought process doesn't work with me.Comment
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Pornography titillates the voyeur. You can look at her and she will meet your gaze without scorning/spurning you. That's why it's a lie.Originally posted by The_Tick View Post"Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --SolonComment
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Just an update on the upcoming NPAC meeting:
Reminders were distributed to the sisters in the form of bagged candy corns.
I kept telling myself at some point the joke would come out, but it is indeed legit and going down on the 6th. I'll keep in touch with my inside sources.Comment
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I think the Church is making too much of the porn thing. I think it is possible that unchecked porn consumption can destroy lives. I also think it is likely that unchecked anti-porn obsession can also destroy lives. Sometimes people are married and looking for a way out that will allow them to still look good to their social group; sort of like a "release clause" in the marital contract. The "porn addiction" thing has become one of those release clauses in the LDS marital contract. In many ways it is much better than the previously common "he was an abuser" refrain found in many single wards but is still a problem because it acts as a one sided exit strategy.
I know a few guys whose marriages were destroyed, not by porn, but by their wives obsession with what she perceived was porn. One crazy lady left her husband and took the kids because he was addicted to porn. Turns out the porn, by her admission, was Victoria Secret and the SI Swimsuit edition. Sure she caught him polishing the pole to Vickie's catalogue but that shouldn't act as a marital release clause, imho.Comment
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Candy corns? Seriously?Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
"Hey, porn is bad and we don't want our husbands to look at it. Now let's become unified in our crusade by eating stuff that will make us really fat in protest!"
Okay, maybe that's only funny to me.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.Comment
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I like candy corns, and it's a very seasonal move. Halloween is just around the corner.Originally posted by nikuman View PostGive 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
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