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  • falafel
    loves to talk on things
    • Mar 2009
    • 37836

    #76
    Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post
    A friend of mine who is into early church history way more than I am is convinced the photo is of Joseph’s cousin George A Smith. Based upon this older picture of GAS, it is a compelling argument.
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    There is some resemblence. I think the biggest issue with that theory is that GAS would have been in his mid-20s when that photo was likely taken. Not sure that looks like a fresh faced 2o year old. But it could be.

    Another issue I have with the purported JS photo is that this dude looks relatively fit (judging by his face). I seem to recall JS being described as a bit portly, although now I'm questioning that.
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    • Art Vandelay
      Striving for mediocrity
      • Jul 2009
      • 10516

      #77
      Originally posted by falafel View Post

      There is some resemblence. I think the biggest issue with that theory is that GAS would have been in his mid-20s when that photo was likely taken. Not sure that looks like a fresh faced 2o year old. But it could be.

      Another issue I have with the purported JS photo is that this dude looks relatively fit (judging by his face). I seem to recall JS being described as a bit portly, although now I'm questioning that.
      As to your first point. I didn’t know about the age thing with GAS. Yeah that doesn’t look like a 20YO

      Your second point. I’ve never heard that. In fact always assumed the opposite. In my mind he was tall (for the time) but athletically built. But that is purely based upon my own internal visualization

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      • falafel
        loves to talk on things
        • Mar 2009
        • 37836

        #78
        Originally posted by Art Vandelay View Post

        As to your first point. I didn’t know about the age thing with GAS. Yeah that doesn’t look like a 20YO

        Your second point. I’ve never heard that. In fact always assumed the opposite. In my mind he was tall (for the time) but athletically built. But that is purely based upon my own internal visualization
        Hmmm. Yeah, I read some descriptions just now that trend towards the athletic more than the portly. But they do describe him as having a full barrel chest. I guess that, combined with pictures like this, have tainted my perception.

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        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • All-American
          Right, as Usual
          • Nov 2008
          • 15637

          #79
          Originally posted by falafel View Post

          Hmmm. Yeah, I read some descriptions just now that trend towards the athletic more than the portly. But they do describe him as having a full barrel chest. I guess that, combined with pictures like this, have tainted my perception.

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          Emma spoke of Joseph's reaction to paintings done in his lifetime (possibly even this one, though that is disputed):

          [It] hung first in the Mansion House and afterward in the Nauvoo House in possession of the Prophet’s widow, Emma Smith. Upon visiting her, in the winter of 1875-76, she entertained me very hospitably and showed me the painting, then hanging in her bedroom in the Nauvoo House. I asked her if it were a good likeness of the Prophet. She replied, “No, He could not have a good portrait—his countenance was changing all the time.” I then asked her what he thought of it and she replied: “I can tell you that, for I asked him and he said: ‘Emma, that is a nice painting of a silly boy, but it don’t look much like a Prophet of the Lord.’"
          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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          • jadesroom
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2021
            • 138

            #80
            We've had pictures of Joseph Smith since 1941. It's not rocket science. tumblr_megoh3lSyd1rj7q6oo1_1280.jpg

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            • Donuthole
              Official Outgayer
              • Nov 2008
              • 25221

              #81
              Originally posted by jadesroom View Post
              We've had pictures of Joseph Smith since 1941. It's not rocket science. tumblr_megoh3lSyd1rj7q6oo1_1280.jpg
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              • HBCoug
                Peanut Gallery Asshat
                • Dec 2008
                • 2082

                #82
                Originally posted by All-American View Post

                Here is a painting of Brigham Young from 1845:



                Here is a daguerrotype from 1850:

                Why was he painted with his ass put on backwards? Hadn't seen that question asked yet and just wanted to contribute.

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18682

                  #83
                  Originally posted by HBCoug View Post

                  Why was he painted with his ass put on backwards? Hadn't seen that question asked yet and just wanted to contribute.
                  Plus the head looks out of proportion small.

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                  • beefytee
                    Board eye candy
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 7542

                    #84
                    He could make a great Mr. Tickle or Elastigirl with those arms.

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                    • Color Me Badd Fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12519

                      #85
                      Originally posted by All-American View Post

                      Here is a painting of Brigham Young from 1845:



                      Here is a daguerrotype from 1850:

                      The painting of Brigham Young is hilarious. He has the Orangutan arms along with the 2010 Kyle Whittingham front butt. That said, there are aspects of the face in the painting that strongly resemble Young's later photos -- the nose, mouth, chin, shape of face, etc.

                      As for whether a desk mask strays too far from someone's actual face, here's Lincoln's

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                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • Pelado
                        Bald not naked
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21072

                        #86
                        I didn't think the Joseph Smith Daguerreotype was real. It didn't look like him to me. I was wrong. Spend five minutes and look at this video evidence. It is incredible.


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                        • All-American
                          Right, as Usual
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 15637

                          #87
                          I was just thinking about this the other day. It seems like the noise has died down, and everyone is settling into the position of, well, we probably can’t ever say for sure.

                          I don’t know nearly enough about these methods to say how authoritative they are. There is a part of me that thinks they just prove that Joseph had a face. I would like to see some expert play devils advocate and do all these same tests and analyses on Hyrum’s mask. I half expect they would match well to his too.

                          but I still want it to be Joseph.
                          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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