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  • MartyFunkhouser
    Disciple of RNGesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 18713

    #8041
    Originally posted by Commando View Post
    The first five minutes really reel you in. No doubt he's seen it.
    I bet he has seen it, but he got his copy from Cleanflix.
    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
    --Kendrick Lamar

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    • Eddie
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 8098

      #8042
      OK - not really "learned in church", but hopefully close enough to count.

      My daughter-in-law is taking a Doctrine and Covenants institute class. She says that the teacher likes to get into some deep doctrinal conversations from time to time, and ended up asking me what I thought of the teacher's latest point of discussion during dinner yesterday.

      Apparently the teacher told them that upon Christ's resurrection, EVERY good person who had died prior to Christ and was worthy of being resurrected during the "first resurrection" was resurrected at that time. Kind of a reference to Matthew 27:52-53, I suppose.

      So here's the fun part - this guy told them that because all of the good people who died before Christ were resurrected with Christ, that means that when archeologists find the bones of humans that pre-date Christ, that means that those individuals were not good people. Because if they had been good people they would've been resurrected and there would be no bones to find.

      Admittedly, this is third hand. But that's one of the craziest things I've heard coming from a seminary/institute teacher in a while.

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      • Bo Diddley
        Senior
        • Jul 2012
        • 18710

        #8043
        Originally posted by Eddie View Post
        OK - not really "learned in church", but hopefully close enough to count.

        My daughter-in-law is taking a Doctrine and Covenants institute class. She says that the teacher likes to get into some deep doctrinal conversations from time to time, and ended up asking me what I thought of the teacher's latest point of discussion during dinner yesterday.

        Apparently the teacher told them that upon Christ's resurrection, EVERY good person who had died prior to Christ and was worthy of being resurrected during the "first resurrection" was resurrected at that time. Kind of a reference to Matthew 27:52-53, I suppose.

        So here's the fun part - this guy told them that because all of the good people who died before Christ were resurrected with Christ, that means that when archeologists find the bones of humans that pre-date Christ, that means that those individuals were not good people. Because if they had been good people they would've been resurrected and there would be no bones to find.

        Admittedly, this is third hand. But that's one of the craziest things I've heard coming from a seminary/institute teacher in a while.
        That's awesome. It's the sort of thing you learn from other missionaries in the field.

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        • Moliere
          One man.....one pie
          • Oct 2009
          • 27796

          #8044
          Originally posted by Eddie View Post
          OK - not really "learned in church", but hopefully close enough to count.

          My daughter-in-law is taking a Doctrine and Covenants institute class. She says that the teacher likes to get into some deep doctrinal conversations from time to time, and ended up asking me what I thought of the teacher's latest point of discussion during dinner yesterday.

          Apparently the teacher told them that upon Christ's resurrection, EVERY good person who had died prior to Christ and was worthy of being resurrected during the "first resurrection" was resurrected at that time. Kind of a reference to Matthew 27:52-53, I suppose.

          So here's the fun part - this guy told them that because all of the good people who died before Christ were resurrected with Christ, that means that when archeologists find the bones of humans that pre-date Christ, that means that those individuals were not good people. Because if they had been good people they would've been resurrected and there would be no bones to find.

          Admittedly, this is third hand. But that's one of the craziest things I've heard coming from a seminary/institute teacher in a while.
          I love the doctrine (or whatever you want to call it) that our resurrected body can only be made from the deteriorated remnants of our mortal body. I also love crazy seminary/institute doctrine.
          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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          • Sullyute
            a day late/a dollar short
            • Jul 2010
            • 3308

            #8045
            Originally posted by Eddie View Post
            OK - not really "learned in church", but hopefully close enough to count.

            My daughter-in-law is taking a Doctrine and Covenants institute class. She says that the teacher likes to get into some deep doctrinal conversations from time to time, and ended up asking me what I thought of the teacher's latest point of discussion during dinner yesterday.

            Apparently the teacher told them that upon Christ's resurrection, EVERY good person who had died prior to Christ and was worthy of being resurrected during the "first resurrection" was resurrected at that time. Kind of a reference to Matthew 27:52-53, I suppose.

            So here's the fun part - this guy told them that because all of the good people who died before Christ were resurrected with Christ, that means that when archeologists find the bones of humans that pre-date Christ, that means that those individuals were not good people. Because if they had been good people they would've been resurrected and there would be no bones to find.

            Admittedly, this is third hand. But that's one of the craziest things I've heard coming from a seminary/institute teacher in a while.
            So based on that there should never be any child bones younger than 8 ever found before 33 CE!?!
            "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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            • swampfrog
              Social Distance Warrior
              • Feb 2011
              • 2267

              #8046
              Originally posted by Moliere View Post
              I love the doctrine (or whatever you want to call it) that our resurrected body can only be made from the deteriorated remnants of our mortal body. I also love crazy seminary/institute doctrine.
              Since at some level the decomposition becomes part of other plant/animal life, it will make for some comically and permanently connected resurrected beings.

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              • Northwestcoug
                Cocked and Loaded
                • May 2011
                • 17920

                #8047
                I remember being taught the first part (good people resurrected with Christ). But not the 'logical' conclusion. I wish I had. That is pantheon-level deep doctrine!
                "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                - SeattleUte

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                • Eddie
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 8098

                  #8048
                  Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                  I remember being taught the first part (good people resurrected with Christ). But not the 'logical' conclusion. I wish I had. That is pantheon-level deep doctrine!
                  I remember being taught the part in the Matthew scripture I included - that there were some "good saints" who were resurrected and seen by others. I don't recall ever being taught that they ALL were resurrected.

                  If they were ALL resurrected - that kind of sucks for the people in spirit prison who need to be taught the gospel and accept their temple baptism. I mean - suddenly there is no one there who can teach them - apparently they all left with Jesus after his three day sojourn, which we are told He spent organizing the work (which suddenly was non-existent because everyone left with him) So these poor suckers are stuck there waiting for good people to start dying again so that there are people to teach them.

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                  • Northwestcoug
                    Cocked and Loaded
                    • May 2011
                    • 17920

                    #8049
                    Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                    I remember being taught the part in the Matthew scripture I included - that there were some "good saints" who were resurrected and seen by others. I don't recall ever being taught that they ALL were resurrected.

                    If they were ALL resurrected - that kind of sucks for the people in spirit prison who need to be taught the gospel and accept their temple baptism. I mean - suddenly there is no one there who can teach them - apparently they all left with Jesus after his three day sojourn, which we are told He spent organizing the work (which suddenly was non-existent because everyone left with him) So these poor suckers are stuck there waiting for good people to start dying again so that there are people to teach them.
                    You're right. I don't recall hearing that all of them were. Just a nebulous amount of 'good'.
                    "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                    "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                    - SeattleUte

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                    • BigFatMeanie
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7089

                      #8050
                      Resurrection is one of those things that is mind-boggling to comprehend as well as nonsensical according to my understanding of the laws of physics; however, I surely hope it is real.

                      To me, the concepts of resurrection and faith and hope are inextricably tied together. I love reading Ether 12 and thinking about the interplay between resurrection, faith, and hope.

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                      • UVACoug
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 2685

                        #8051
                        Originally posted by Eddie View Post
                        OK - not really "learned in church", but hopefully close enough to count.

                        My daughter-in-law is taking a Doctrine and Covenants institute class. She says that the teacher likes to get into some deep doctrinal conversations from time to time, and ended up asking me what I thought of the teacher's latest point of discussion during dinner yesterday.

                        Apparently the teacher told them that upon Christ's resurrection, EVERY good person who had died prior to Christ and was worthy of being resurrected during the "first resurrection" was resurrected at that time. Kind of a reference to Matthew 27:52-53, I suppose.

                        So here's the fun part - this guy told them that because all of the good people who died before Christ were resurrected with Christ, that means that when archeologists find the bones of humans that pre-date Christ, that means that those individuals were not good people. Because if they had been good people they would've been resurrected and there would be no bones to find.

                        Admittedly, this is third hand. But that's one of the craziest things I've heard coming from a seminary/institute teacher in a while.
                        Must be true. I learned in Sunday School as a teenager that cremating a loved one was one of the gravest sims because it prevented them from being resurrected.

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                        • Eddie
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 8098

                          #8052
                          Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                          Must be true. I learned in Sunday School as a teenager that cremating a loved one was one of the gravest sims because it prevented them from being resurrected.
                          Kind of sad to know that anyone who dies in a fire and is burned up will basically be stuck in paradise/prison for eternity because they can't be resurrected. Really sad.

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                          • Pelado
                            Bald not naked
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21088

                            #8053
                            Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                            Resurrection is one of those things that is mind-boggling to comprehend as well as nonsensical according to my understanding of the laws of physics; however, I surely hope it is real.

                            To me, the concepts of resurrection and faith and hope are inextricably tied together. I love reading Ether 12 and thinking about the interplay between resurrection, faith, and hope.
                            If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
                            "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
                            - Goatnapper'96

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69462

                              #8054
                              Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
                              Must be true. I learned in Sunday School as a teenager that cremating a loved one was one of the gravest sims because it prevented them from being resurrected.
                              That’s really funny.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                              • Donuthole
                                Official Outgayer
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 25230

                                #8055
                                I love stuff like this. It reminds me of the time we were in the temple waiting to do baptisms with the youth and the temple worker, wanting to emphasize the importance of the temple work about to be performed by the group, announced that it has been estimated that 80% of Temple work performed by proxy is accepted on the other side.
                                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                                There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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