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  • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
    I learned that the Foyer's collective reading comprehension skills are just south of Abysmal.
    Is this a blanket statement or only reserved for those who do not interpret statements the same as you do?
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

    -Rick Majerus

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    • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      I learned that the Foyer's collective reading comprehension skills are just south of Abysmal.
      I highly doubt you learned this in church. Don't they usually lock up on monday nights?
      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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      • In The Foyer, every day is Sunday.
        Everything in life is an approximation.

        http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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        • Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
          Is this a blanket statement or only reserved for those who do not interpret statements the same as you do?
          My statement speaks for itself. If you can't figure it out, you're part of the problem.
          Everything in life is an approximation.

          http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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          • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
            My statement speaks for itself. If you can't figure it out, you're part of the problem.
            Good to see you admit that you are part of the problem as well.
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

            -Rick Majerus

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            • Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
              Good to see you admit that you are part of the problem as well.
              JIC Indy Coug
              Everything in life is an approximation.

              http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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              • I was extended the calling to be ward clerk last night. It was actually a huge relief as our ward is splitting this Sunday. Three guys showed up at the Stake offices at the same time as me so I was thinking it could be bishop or one of the counselors. Fortunately, that didn't turn out to be the case. Still, I'm not looking forward to sitting on disciplinary councils. Any words of wisdom from those of you who have held this position?

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                • Originally posted by Hypoplastic View Post
                  I was extended the calling to be ward clerk last night. It was actually a huge relief as our ward is splitting this Sunday. Three guys showed up at the Stake offices at the same time as me so I was thinking it could be bishop or one of the counselors. Fortunately, that didn't turn out to be the case. Still, I'm not looking forward to sitting on disciplinary councils. Any words of wisdom from those of you who have held this position?
                  My words of wisdom would have been more appropriate before you said yes to that calling.
                  I'm like LeBron James.
                  -mpfunk

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                  • Originally posted by Hypoplastic View Post
                    I was extended the calling to be ward clerk last night. It was actually a huge relief as our ward is splitting this Sunday. Three guys showed up at the Stake offices at the same time as me so I was thinking it could be bishop or one of the counselors. Fortunately, that didn't turn out to be the case. Still, I'm not looking forward to sitting on disciplinary councils. Any words of wisdom from those of you who have held this position?
                    Your Sundays just got a lot longer. I've never been clerk, but I have been Exec Secretary and a counselor. Any of those callings that require attendance at Bishopric meeting is a big step up in time commitment. But from first hand experience none of them even approach the stress and time commitment levels of the Bishop. EQP and RSP are also much worse. My advice would be do everything you can to lighten the load on your Bishop. And don't be afraid to speak your mind when he asks for counsel even (especially) if you disagree.

                    The good thing about Exec Secretary and Clerk as apposed to Bishop and counselors is you are mostly administrating as opposed to administering. I know I should enjoy the latter more, but I was much better at organizing the Bishop's schedule and freeing up his time to administer than I was getting out and doing it myself as a counselor.

                    Hopefully you won't have many disciplinary councils to attend.

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                    • Originally posted by Hypoplastic View Post
                      I was extended the calling to be ward clerk last night. It was actually a huge relief as our ward is splitting this Sunday. Three guys showed up at the Stake offices at the same time as me so I was thinking it could be bishop or one of the counselors. Fortunately, that didn't turn out to be the case. Still, I'm not looking forward to sitting on disciplinary councils. Any words of wisdom from those of you who have held this position?
                      Are you the clerk of the "new" or the "old". I was clerk of a "new" a few years back and it was a lot of work, more than normal, because I had to set everything up from scratch and it took a while to get me assistant clerks to help out.
                      Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                      • Originally posted by Pheidippides View Post
                        Are you the clerk of the "new" or the "old". I was clerk of a "new" a few years back and it was a lot of work, more than normal, because I had to set everything up from scratch and it took a while to get me assistant clerks to help out.
                        New ward. I have some ideas on who should be called as assistant clerks, but I'm not 100% sure on the boundaries so I'll have to wait and see who I can suggest. Fortunately, we have stake conference a week from Sunday so that will give us a slightly bigger window to get some of these things going as we hit the ground running.

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                        • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                          And don't be afraid to speak your mind when he asks for counsel even (especially) if you disagree.
                          Great advice. Thanks. The new bishop has been our home teacher (and a dang good one at that) so I know him pretty well, which will make this easier for me.

                          Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                          Hopefully you won't have many disciplinary councils to attend.
                          We have a Crossfit in our neighborhood, so I'm not optimistic.
                          Last edited by Hypoplastic; 05-09-2013, 09:05 AM.

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                          • Ward Clerk can be easy or difficult depending on the ward. In a good sized, stable ward it generally just means an extra two hours on Sunday at church for meetings and the occasional weeknight evening, at tithing settlement for example. This is especially true if you have a good membership clerk and finance clerk who know what they're doing and are familiar with Church SOP and MLS.

                            I was ward clerk here in our small (almost a branch), transient ward and didn't have a membership or finance clerk so I handled everything. That meant meetings in the morning and tithing afterward and running around during 2nd and 3rd hour to get administrative issues taken care of so I wouldn't have to come in during the week. Our records were a mess too so I spent a lot of time getting them squared away. It was a very demanding calling. For a portion of that time I was a primary teacher and also the ward employment specialist. I was finall released from those other callings and given a finance clerk. However, this brother while earnest wasn't very computer literate. After spending a couple week nights of training him, I still wasn't able to leave his side when he was logged into MLS. In the end, I basically gave up and just did everything myself as it was easier and consumed less time that to do it with him.
                            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                            -Turtle
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                            • Originally posted by Hypoplastic View Post
                              Great advice. Thanks. The new bishop has been our home teacher (and a dang good one at that) so I know him pretty well, which will make this easier for me.



                              We have a Crossfit in our neighborhood, so I'm not optimistic.
                              This is good to hear (not the crossfit part; the other part). And Omaha is right: speak your mind. There is nothing worse than a bunch of yes men in a room - I've seen it before in bishoprics. My current bishop, a friend of mine, would also tell you to do everything you can to have efficient and decisive meetings. You can help that out by taking a few minutes to set a very clear agenda in coordination with the Bishop.
                              Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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                              • Originally posted by Hypoplastic View Post
                                We have a Crossfit in our neighborhood, so I'm not optimistic.
                                Is Crossfit the new AdultFriendFinders medium? I hadn't received the memo. No wonder I'm not having much luck at LVAC these days.
                                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                                There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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