I learned in church today

[Jeff Lebowski]

Lol. Nice try, moli.

[falafel]

Not usually, even at church. We are friends and served in a bishopric together so I generally use his first name, especially in friendly chats in the hallway.

But you somehow think it's weird that the church promote members using the name Bishop vs calling them John or whatever?

[Jeff Lebowski]

But you somehow think it's weird that the church promote members using the name Bishop vs calling them John or whatever?

Podcast #163.

[imanihonjin]

You don't call your bishop "Bishop"?

I can't. Our Bishop is a really good friend of mine and was recently called. For the life of me, it is bizarre to call him by anything other than his first name.

[Eddie]

I can't. Our Bishop is a really good friend of mine and was recently called. For the life of me, it is bizarre to call him by anything other than his first name.

When we had a new Bishop called a while back who was one of my friends, it seemed a little weird at first to me too. I was called to be one of his counselors. I went out of my way to refer to him as Bishop in every setting that it wasn't just us one on one - and even sometimes in those settings depending on what we were talking about and whether or not it involved him being Bishop. Partly just to respect the office, but also to remind myself that he carried a certain mantle and often was acting in a role other than being my friend.

It was also interesting to me to see his approach. He wouldn't go to the Bishop's office without wearing a shirt and tie. He once told me "it isn't about me - I'm just trying to respect the calling and what it represents. When I'm in that office, I've got to change my mindset and remember who I represent. And the uniform helps me do that."

[jay santos]

The stake president in the ward I visited this weekend spent a good five minutes telling the EQ that the brethren are emphasizing the use of “bishop” and “president” when addressing people at church in those respective callings. Utah wards, smh.

In my ward, they're encouraging everyone to address all three of the elder's quorum presidency with "President". Kinda tough calling a 27 year old EQ second counselor "President Olsen".

[wapiti]

In my ward, they're encouraging everyone to address all three of the elder's quorum presidency with "President". Kinda tough calling a 27 year old EQ second counselor "President Olsen".

That's weird.

[Moliere]

That's weird.

That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.

[falafel]

That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.

And because it doesn't hurt you to show these younger kids that it is important to honor their callings.

[wapiti]

That is weird. It’s also weird to call the 12 year old deacons quorum president “President” as well as the YW class presidents when you are an older male that has nothing to do with those groups but I guess I should comply since some stake president said the brethren are pushing it.

Why is that weird?

[imanihonjin]

Why is that weird?

I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.

[wapiti]

I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.

Calling by title is a perfectly normal thing in both government and religion. President, Senator, Governor, Speaker, etc. Pastor, Bishop, Father, Mother, Elder, etc. Not weird.

[imanihonjin]

Calling by title is a perfectly normal thing in both government and religion. President, Senator, Governor, Speaker, etc. Pastor, Bishop, Father, Mother, Elder, etc. Not weird.

Okay, Brother wapiti.

[creekster]

I think the whole title thing is weird. Brother, sister, President, etc. I don't call the CFO of my company, Chief, or the President and CEO, President. I just prefer to be called by name and feel odd calling others by anything but their name.

I like titles because then I don’t need to remember first names.

[happyone]

I like titles because then I don’t need to remember first names.

YES!